<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Tom Fifield <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tom@openstack.org" target="_blank">tom@openstack.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 04/10/14 04:03, Nick Chase wrote:<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Stefano Maffulli <<a href="mailto:stefano@openstack.org">stefano@openstack.org</a><br>
</span><span class="">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:stefano@openstack.org">stefano@openstack.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> > 1. Pick an existing topic or create a new topic. For new topics,<br>
> we're<br>
> > primarily interested in deployment scenarios.<br>
> > 2. Develop content (text and/or diagrams) in a format that<br>
> supports at<br>
> > least basic markup (e.g., titles, paragraphs, lists, etc.).<br>
> > 3. Provide a link to the content (e.g., gist on <a href="http://github.com" target="_blank">github.com</a><br>
</span>> <<a href="http://github.com" target="_blank">http://github.com</a>>, wiki page,<br>
<span class="">> > blog post, etc.) under the associated topic.<br>
><br>
> Points 1-3 seem to be oriented at removing Launchpad from the equation.<br>
> Is that all there is? I guess it makes sense to remove obstacles,<br>
> although editing the wiki (since it requires a launchpad account anyway)<br>
> may not be the best way to track progress and see assignments.<br>
><br>
><br>
> No, really, the main change is in step 5. Launchpad isn't the problem,<br>
> as far as we can tell; Docbook is.<br>
<br>
</span>Hi Nick,<br>
<br>
As best I can tell - 'step 5' has been in place for at least the last<br>
few summits at least, so this is not a change :) We have had a policy<br>
where anyone can dump text in bug reports and we'll wrangle it. This has<br>
been popular, see eg Marco Cossoni's contributions, but in my opinion<br>
not widely enough communicated - so thanks for your efforts.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Right, again, it's fantastic that people can dump text in bug reports, and yes, it's probably not well known. We're just trying to sort of widen out what people are sending from a few paragraphs to entire topics. But hey, the general idea is the same. We're all trying to get to the same point.</div><div><br></div><div>Obviously there's something about the current process that's not working as well as it could. This experiment is about trying to figure out what. If all we're changing is moving the contribution point from a bug report to a wiki, then great; having just one changed variable among control variables is good science.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
> > 4. Send e-mail to reviewers <a href="mailto:networking@openstacknow.com">networking@openstacknow.com</a><br>
</span>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:networking@openstacknow.com">networking@openstacknow.com</a>>.<br>
<span class="">><br>
> Why not use the docs mailing list or other facilities on<br>
</span>> @<a href="http://openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack.org</a> <<a href="http://openstack.org" target="_blank">http://openstack.org</a>>?<br>
<span class="">> Who is responding to that address?<br>
><br>
><br>
> If someone want to provide us a list on @<a href="http://openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack.org</a><br>
</span>> <<a href="http://openstack.org" target="_blank">http://openstack.org</a>>, that'd be awesome. I set up this address<br>
<span class="">> because I control the forwarding and could do it immediately without<br>
> having to ask for anyone's approval. :)<br>
><br>
> People on the alias are myself, Edgar Magana, Matt Kasawara, Phil<br>
> Hopkins, Anne Gentle, and Elke Vorheis.<br>
<br>
</span>I find it quite odd that the larger team is being excluded from this<br>
effort. Why would it need a separate mailing list?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We haven't intentionally excluded anybody; we were just keeping it small both to keep it a focused effort -- this way we could more easily hash things out without anybody stepping on anybody else -- and so that we weren't essentially volunteering people against their will. :) But we can easily change it over to the main docs list.</div><div><br></div><div>---- Nick </div></div></div></div>