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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/24/2014 10:12 AM, Joshua Harlow
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<div>Sounds like an interesting project/goal and will be
interesting to see where this goes.</div>
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<div>A few questions/comments:</div>
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How much golang will people be exposed to with this addition?
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Joshua,<br>
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I expect very little. We intend to use Kubernetes as an upstream
project, rather then something we contribute to directly.<br>
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<div>Seeing that this could be the first 'go' using project it
will be interesting to see where this goes (since afaik none of
the infra support exists, and people aren't likely to familiar
with go vs python in the openstack community overall).</div>
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<div>What's your thoughts on how this will affect the existing
openstack container effort?</div>
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I don't think it will have any impact on the existing Magnum
project. At some point if Magnum implements scheduling of docker
containers, we may add support for Magnum in addition to Kubernetes,
but it is impossible to tell at this point. I don't want to derail
either project by trying to force them together unnaturally so
early.<br>
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<div>I see that kubernetes isn't exactly a small project either
(~90k LOC, for those who use these types of metrics), so I
wonder how that will affect people getting involved here, aka,
who has the resources/operators/other... available to actually
setup/deploy/run kubernetes, when operators are likely still
just struggling to run openstack itself (at least operators are
getting used to the openstack warts, a new set of kubernetes
warts could not be so helpful).</div>
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Yup it is fairly large in size. Time will tell if this approach
will work.<br>
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This is an experiment as Robert and others on the thread have
pointed out :).<br>
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-steve<br>
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<div>On Sep 23, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Steven Dake <<a
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I'm pleased to announce the development of a new
project Kolla which is Greek for glue :). Kolla has
a goal of providing an implementation that deploys
OpenStack using Kubernetes and Docker. This project
will begin as a StackForge project separate from the
TripleO/Deployment program code base. Our long term
goal is to merge into the TripleO/Deployment program
rather then create a new program.<br>
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is a container technology for delivering
hermetically sealed applications and has about 620
technical contributors [1]. We intend to produce
docker images for a variety of platforms beginning
with Fedora 20. We are completely open to any distro
support, so if folks want to add new Linux
distribution to Kolla please feel free to submit
patches :)<br>
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at the most basic level is a Docker scheduler
produced by and used within Google [2]. Kubernetes
has in excess of 100 technical contributors.
Kubernetes is more then just a scheduler, it
provides additional functionality such as load
balancing and scaling and has a significant roadmap.<br>
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The #tripleo channel on Freenode will be used for
Kolla developer and user communication. Even though
we plan to become part of the Deployment program
long term, as we experiment we believe it is best to
hold a separate weekly one hour IRC meeting on
Mondays at 2000 UTC in #openstack-meeting [3].<br>
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This project has been discussed with the current
TripleO PTL (Robert Collins) and he seemed very
supportive and agreed with the organization of the
project outlined above. </span><span
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has kindly offered to liase between Kolla and the
broader TripleO community. <br>
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personally feel it is necessary to start from a
nearly empty repository when kicking off a new
project. As a result, there is limited code in the
repository [4] at this time. I suspect folks will
start cranking out a kick-ass implementation once
the Kolla/Stackforge integration support is reviewed
by the infra team [5].<br>
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initial core team is composed of Steven Dake, Ryan
Hallisey, James Lebocki, Jeff Peeler, James Slagle,
Lars Kellogg-Sedman, and David Vossel. The core team
will be reviewed every 6 weeks to add fresh
developers.<br>
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Please join the core team in designing and inventing
this rockin' new technology!<br>
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Regards<br>
-steve<br>
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href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122972/">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122972/</a></span></div>
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