<div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal">Let's use a different email thread to discuss if Octavia
should be part of the Neutron incubator project right away or not. I would like
to keep the two discussions separate.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Susanne</p></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Stephen Balukoff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sbalukoff@bluebox.net" target="_blank">sbalukoff@bluebox.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Susanne--<div><br></div><div>Regarding the Octavia sessions: I think we probably will have enough to discuss that we could use two design sessions. However, I also think that we can probably come to conclusions on whether Octavia should become a part of Neutron Incubator right away via discussion on this mailing list. Do we want to have that discussion in another thread, or should we use this one?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Stephen</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Susanne Balle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sleipnir012@gmail.com" target="_blank">sleipnir012@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">With a corrected Subject. Susanne<div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra">
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On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Susanne Balle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sleipnir012@gmail.com" target="_blank">sleipnir012@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
LBaaS team,</div><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
As we discussed in the Weekly LBaaS meeting this morning we should make sure we get the design sessions scheduled that we are interested in. </div><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<br></div><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">We currently agreed on the following:</div><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<br></div><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">* Neutron LBaaS. we want to schedule 2 sessions. I am assuming that we want to go over status and also the whole incubator thingy and how we will best move forward. </div>
<div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">* Octavia: We want to schedule 2 sessions. </div>
<div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">--- During one of the sessions I would like to discuss the pros and cons of putting Octavia into the Neutron LBaaS incubator project right away. If it is going to be the reference implementation for LBaaS v 2 then I believe Octavia belong in Neutron LBaaS v2 incubator. </div>
<div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">* Flavors which should be coordinated with markmcclain and enikanorov. </div>
<div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">--- <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102723/" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102723/</a></div><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<br></div><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Is this too many sessions given the constraints? I am assuming that we can also meet at the pods like we did at the last summit. </div>
<div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">thoughts?</div>
<div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="padding-left:0px;font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Regards Susanne</div>
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<div style="overflow:hidden">Hi everyone,<br><br>I've been thinking about what changes we can bring to the <span style="background:rgb(255,255,204)">Design</span> <span style="background:rgb(255,255,204)">Summit</span><br>
format to make it more productive. I've heard the feedback from the<br>mid-cycle meetups and would like to apply some of those ideas for Paris,<br>within the constraints we have (already booked space and time). Here is<br>
something we could do:<br><br>Day 1. Cross-project sessions / incubated projects / other projects<br><br>I think that worked well last time. 3 parallel rooms where we can<br>address top cross-project questions, discuss the results of the various<br>
experiments we conducted during juno. Don't hesitate to schedule 2 slots<br>for discussions, so that we have time to come to the bottom of those<br>issues. Incubated projects (and maybe "other" projects, if space allows)<br>
occupy the remaining space on day 1, and could occupy "pods" on the<br>other days.<br><br>Day 2 and Day 3. Scheduled sessions for various programs<br><br>That's our traditional scheduled space. We'll have a 33% less slots<br>
available. So, rather than trying to cover all the scope, the idea would<br>be to focus those sessions on specific issues which really require<br>face-to-face discussion (which can't be solved on the ML or using spec<br>
discussion) *or* require a lot of user feedback. That way, appearing in<br>the general schedule is very helpful. This will require us to be a lot<br>stricter on what we accept there and what we don't -- we won't have<br>
space for courtesy sessions anymore, and traditional/unnecessary<br>sessions (like my traditional "release schedule" one) should just move<br>to the mailing-list.<br><br>Day 4. Contributors meetups<br><br>On the last day, we could try to split the space so that we can conduct<br>
parallel midcycle-meetup-like contributors gatherings, with no time<br>boundaries and an open agenda. Large projects could get a full day,<br>smaller projects would get half a day (but could continue the discussion<br>in a local bar). Ideally that meetup would end with some alignment on<br>
release goals, but the idea is to make the best of that time together to<br>solve the issues you have. <span><span>Friday</span></span> would finish with the <span style="background:rgb(255,255,204)">design</span> <span style="background:rgb(255,255,204)">summit</span><br>
feedback session, for those who are still around.<br><br><br>I think this proposal makes the best use of our setup: discuss clear<br>cross-project issues, address key specific topics which need<br>face-to-face time and broader attendance, then try to replicate the<br>
success of midcycle meetup-like open unscheduled time to discuss<br>whatever is hot at this point.<br><br>There are still details to work out (is it possible split the space,<br>should we use the usual <span style="background:rgb(255,255,204)">design</span> <span style="background:rgb(255,255,204)">summit</span> CFP website to organize the<br>
"scheduled" time...), but I would first like to have your feedback on<br>this format. Also if you have alternative proposals that would make a<br>better use of our 4 days, let me know.<br><br>Cheers,<div>
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