<div dir="ltr">Sorry, not good with neutron. Could you explain what "use a regular segmentation identifer like the rest of the network" ? What is this segmentation identifier ?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Kevin Benton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blak111@gmail.com" target="_blank">blak111@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">No, the gateway_external_network_id option just refers to how your network is deployed. If the external network uses a regular segmentation identifier like the rest of the networks, this will work. If not, it won't because the instances will try to use a segmentation identifier. </p>
<p dir="ltr">In other words, if you have a separate physical interface for external networks on your L3 agent nodes, this will not work. </p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 26, 2014 12:14 PM, "Bao Wang" <<a href="mailto:bywang98@gmail.com" target="_blank">bywang98@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">
<div dir="ltr">Just want to clarify something. this public ip as private ip is only for external facing interfaces on a set of VM instances. At the same time, the majority of interfaces on hte same set of VM instances will not have public ip and their subnets are isolated networks. Will this change your conclusion when you mentioned "the gateway_external_network_id is left blank for the L3 agent" ? </div>
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<div dir="ltr">I think this will depend on the deployment type for the L3 agent. If the gateway_external_network_id is left blank for the L3 agent, the external network is vlan tagged just like any regular network and doesn't have an independent bridge.[1] In that deployment scenario it should work fine.</div>
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<p><font face="sans-serif">Would this work? We used to have warnings in Neutron docs indicating that instances should not be attached to external networks:</font><br>
<font face="sans-serif">"</font><font size="3" face="Verdana">It is important to understand that you should not attach the instance to Ext-Net directly. Instead, you must use a floating IP to make it accessible from the external network.</font><font face="sans-serif">"</font><br>
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<font face="sans-serif">In this particular case and with the OVS plugin, the traffic on the external network which now hosts tenant VMs (on OpenStack compute nodes) should get routed from the br-int to the external bridge br-ex using for example the appropriate vlan id (what if external network does not use vlan?) and then to the external network without doing the NATing. Would this traffic go through the veth pair connecting the br-int and br-ex?</font><br>
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<img border="0" alt="Inactive hide details for Kevin Benton ---08/23/2014 01:37:28 AM---Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network " src="cid:1__=0ABBF7ADDFC5E9468f9e8a93df938@us.ibm.com" width="16" height="16"><font color="#424282" face="sans-serif">Kevin Benton ---08/23/2014 01:37:28 AM---Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network within Neutron to accomplish this.</font><br>
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<font size="3" face="serif">Yes, you should be able to create a shared/external network within Neutron to accomplish this.</font><br>
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<font size="3" face="serif">On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Bao Wang <</font><a href="mailto:bywang98@gmail.com" target="_blank"><font color="#0000ff" size="3" face="serif"><u>bywang98@gmail.com</u></font></a><font size="3" face="serif">> wrote:</font>
<ul style="padding-left:9pt"><font size="3" face="serif">Thank you for your response. Could this be done naturally with Openstack neutron or have to be done manually outside neutron ? As we are expecting to orchestrate hundreds of NFV with all similar network configuration, programmability is another key element.</font><br>
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<font size="3" face="serif">On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Kevin Benton <</font><a href="mailto:blak111@gmail.com" target="_blank"><font color="#0000ff" size="3" face="serif"><u>blak111@gmail.com</u></font></a><font size="3" face="serif">> wrote:</font>
<ul style="padding-left:9pt"><font size="3" face="serif">Have you tried making the external network shared as well? Instances that need a private IP with NAT attach to an internal network and go through the router like normal. Instances that need a public IP without NAT would just attach directly to the external network.</font><br>
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<font size="3" face="serif">On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Bao Wang <</font><a href="mailto:bywang98@gmail.com" target="_blank"><font color="#0000ff" size="3" face="serif"><u>bywang98@gmail.com</u></font></a><font size="3" face="serif">> wrote:</font>
<ul style="padding-left:9pt"><font size="3" face="serif">I have a very complex Openstack deployment for NFV. It could not be deployed as Flat. It will have a lot of isolated private networks. Some interfaces of a group VM instances will need bridged network with their fixed IP addresses to communicate with outside world while other interfaces from the same set of VM should keep isolated with real private/fixed IP addresses. What happen if we use public IP addresses directly as fixed IP on those interfaces ? Will this work with Openstack neutron networking ? Will Openstack do NAT automatically on those ? </font>
<p><font size="3" face="serif">Overall, the requirement is to use the fixed/public IP to communicate with outside directly on some interfaces of some VM instances while keeping others as private. The floating IP is not an option here</font><br>
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