<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Asselin, Ramy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ramy.asselin@hp.com" target="_blank">ramy.asselin@hp.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Many of us are still working on setting up and testing 3<sup>rd</sup> party ci for cinder drivers.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">None of them currently have gerrit +1/-1 voting, but I heard there’s a plan to “disable” those that are “not working” post-J3 (Please correct me if I misunderstood).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, Post-J3 is a great time to work on 3<sup>rd</sup> party ci for a few reasons:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><u></u>Increases the overall QA effort when it’s most needed.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><u></u>Many contributors have more time available since feature work is complete.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since erroneous failing tests from non-voting ci accounts can still distract reviewers, I’d like to propose a compromise:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Marking 3<sup>rd</sup> party ci jobs still undergoing testing and stability as (non-voting).<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">e.g.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">dsvm-tempest-my-driver<a href="http://15.126.198.151/67/106567/30/check/dsvm-tempest-hp-lefthand/a212407" target="_blank"></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#007f00">SUCCESS</span></span><span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></span><span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">in
39m 27s (non-voting)</span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red">FAILURE</span></span><span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red"> </span></span><span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">in
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<p class="MsoNormal">This way, progress can still be made by cinder vendors working on setting up 3<sup>rd</sup> party ci under ‘real’ load post J3 while minimizing distractions for cinder reviewers and other stakeholders.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think this is consistent with how the OpenStack “Jenkins” CI marks potentially unstable jobs.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please share your thoughts.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ramy<u></u><u></u></p>
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<br></blockquote></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace">Just FYI, I haven't necessarily heard that drivers etc are going to be removed. I would say however that the job should be removed until it's stable. There's no reason you can't do that (just don't submit your results) and still work on fixing things up. My system for example has been running on every OpenStack commit today but I'm dumping results to a test location while I make sure that things are stable and probably won't turn it on until late next week when I'm sure it will perform. Submitting a system that fails to start 80% of the time doesn't help any of us out IMO.<br>
<br>I realize there's a LOT of really hard work going on and progress being made, not discounting that at all. Just pointing out that populating every review with "ci-system-xyz failed" doesn't help us out much either. If it's backend problems they need fixed, if it's infra problems they need fixed. That's the whole point of this exercise to begin with IIRC.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace">Thanks<br>John</div><br></div></div>