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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My experience with mics, no matter how good, In conference rooms is not good. You are always working hard to hear the soft spoken person who is drowned by
the background noise. It’s always a strain and I don’t want to even think about doing it for a full 8 hrs. It’s better than nothing so I agree, we need to provide some sort of remote conferencing at meetups but nothing compares with actually being there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m not a core so I’m speaking from the outside but I think requiring attendance at the summits (absence requires a note from your parent
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> while strongly encouraging attendance at mid-cycle meetups seems reasonable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">PS: In re companies spending millions on OpenStack so travel to f2f events should be a drop in the bucket. It doesn’t always work that way with the finance
department, money comes out of different buckets and the travel bucket `always` dries up first.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Don Dugger<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">"Censeo Toto nos in Kansa esse decisse." - D. Gale<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ph: 303/443-3786<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Joe Gordon [mailto:joe.gordon0@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 13, 2014 10:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Michael Still <<a href="mailto:mikal@stillhq.com" target="_blank">mikal@stillhq.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes <<a href="mailto:jaypipes@gmail.com">jaypipes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my thoughts on this important topic. I<br>
> very much valued the face-to-face interaction that came from the mid-cycle<br>
> meetup in Beaverton (it was the only one I've ever been to).<br>
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> That said, I do not believe it should be a requirement that cores make it to<br>
> the face-to-face meetings in-person. A number of folks have brought up very<br>
> valid concerns about personal/family time, travel costs and burnout.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm not proposing they be a requirement. I am proposing that they be<br>
strongly encouraged.<o:p></o:p></p>
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> I believe that the issue raised about furthering the divide between core and<br>
> non-core folks is actually the biggest reason I don't support a mandate to<br>
> have cores at the face-to-face meetings, and I think we should make our best<br>
> efforts to support quality virtual meetings that can be done on a more<br>
> frequent basis than the face-to-face meetings that would be optional.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am all for online meetings, but we don't have a practical way to do<br>
them at the moment apart from IRC. Until someone has a concrete<br>
proposal that's been shown to work, I feel its a straw man argument.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What about making it easier for remote people to participate at the mid-cycle meetups? Set up some microphones and a Google hangout? At least that way attending the mid-cycle is not all or nothing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We did something like this last cycle (IIRC we didn't have enough mics) and it worked pretty well.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class="hoenzb">Michael</span><br>
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<span class="hoenzb">Rackspace Australia</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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