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<div>Ivar,</div>
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<div>Of course and this is why we are having this conversation, in order to merge our different opinions.</div>
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<div>Edgar</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Ivar Lazzaro <<a href="mailto:ivarlazzaro@gmail.com">ivarlazzaro@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, August 6, 2014 at 1:41 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Edgar,
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<div>Actually, I think that other reviewers saw that name clash, and still thought it was ok to use the same terminology in such a different context.</div>
<div>BP reviews are a community effort right? So of course someones' idea may be different from yours.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Edgar Magana <span dir="ltr">
<<a href="mailto:edgar.magana@workday.com" target="_blank">edgar.magana@workday.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Basically, I am admitting that I did not catch in my review the part of<br>
the endpoint term that Jay was pointing out.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Edgar<br>
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On 8/6/14, 11:32 AM, "Sumit Naiksatam" <<a href="mailto:sumitnaiksatam@gmail.com">sumitnaiksatam@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>Not sure what you are talking about? You claim now that you had<br>
>suggestion which was not considered, yet you +2'ed a patch, by stating<br>
>that "All looks good to me!".<br>
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>On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Edgar Magana <<a href="mailto:edgar.magana@workday.com">edgar.magana@workday.com</a>><br>
>wrote:<br>
>> That is the beauty of the open source projects, there is always a<br>
>>smartest<br>
>> reviewer catching out the facts that you don¹t.<br>
>><br>
>> Edgar<br>
>><br>
>> On 8/6/14, 10:55 AM, "Sumit Naiksatam" <<a href="mailto:sumitnaiksatam@gmail.com">sumitnaiksatam@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>>Edgar, you seemed to have +2'ed this patch on July 2nd [1]:<br>
>>><br>
>>>"<br>
>>>Edgar Magana<br>
>>>Jul 2 8:42 AM<br>
>>><br>
>>>Patch Set 13: Code-Review+2<br>
>>><br>
>>>All looks good to me! I am not approving yet because Nachi was also<br>
>>>reviewing this code and I would like to see his opinion as well.<br>
>>>"<br>
>>><br>
>>>That would suggest that you were happy with what was in it. I don't<br>
>>>see anything in the review comments that suggests otherwise.<br>
>>><br>
>>>[1] <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95900/" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95900/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>>On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Edgar Magana <<a href="mailto:edgar.magana@workday.com">edgar.magana@workday.com</a>><br>
>>>wrote:<br>
>>>> This is the consequence of a proposal that is not following the<br>
>>>>standardized<br>
>>>> terminology (IETF - RFC) for any Policy-based System:<br>
>>>> <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3198" target="_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3198</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Well, I did bring this point during the Hong Kong Summit but as you<br>
>>>>can see<br>
>>>> my comments were totally ignored:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZbOFxAoibZbJmDWx1oOrOsDcov6Cuom5aaB" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZbOFxAoibZbJmDWx1oOrOsDcov6Cuom5aaB</a><br>
>>>>Ir<br>
>>>>upCD9E/edit<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I clearly saw this kind of issues coming. Let me quote myself what I<br>
>>>> suggested: "For instance: "endpoints" should be "enforcement point"<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I do not understand why GBP did not include this suggestionŠ<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Edgar<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> From: Kevin Benton <<a href="mailto:blak111@gmail.com">blak111@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage<br>
>>>>questions)"<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 at 10:22 AM<br>
>>>> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way<br>
>>>> forward<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> What I was referring to was also not Keystone's definition of an<br>
>>>>endpoint.<br>
>>>> It's almost as if the term has many uses and was not invented for<br>
>>>>Keystone.<br>
>>>> :-)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="http://www.wireshark.org/docs/wsug_html_chunked/ChStatEndpoints.html" target="_blank">
http://www.wireshark.org/docs/wsug_html_chunked/ChStatEndpoints.html</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Did a similar discussion occur when Heat wanted to use the word<br>
>>>>'template'<br>
>>>> since this was clearly already in use by Horizon?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Aug 6, 2014 9:24 AM, "Jay Pipes" <<a href="mailto:jaypipes@gmail.com">jaypipes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On 08/06/2014 02:12 AM, Kevin Benton wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Given that, pointing to the Nova parity work seems a bit like a red<br>
>>>>>> herring. This new API is being developed orthogonally to the<br>
>>>>>>existing<br>
>>>>>> API endpoints<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> You see how you used the term endpoints there? :P<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> -jay<br>
>>>>><br>
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