<div dir="ltr">I'm OK with essentially skipping the Wednesday video meetings until we're at a point that we're ready to concentrate on Octavia as a project.<div><br></div><div>In previous video meetings there was a general sentiment that more could be accomplished (and faster) using video communications, while avoiding a lot of misunderstandings that crop up when people use text as a sole means of communication. (And there's science to back up this claim: <a href="http://www.nonverbalgroup.com/2011/08/how-much-of-communication-is-really-nonverbal/">http://www.nonverbalgroup.com/2011/08/how-much-of-communication-is-really-nonverbal/</a> <a href="http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/beyond-words/201109/is-nonverbal-communication-numbers-game">http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/beyond-words/201109/is-nonverbal-communication-numbers-game</a> )</div>
<div><br></div><div>Having said this, even if someone is recording all the video feeds that go into a video conference, this is difficult to document in any useful way for posterity or even for people who aren't able to make it to the discussion.<br>
<br>When the Octavia project kicks into high gear once the Neutron LBaaS stuff is in a good state for Juno, we'll probably start with the high-bandwidth video conferences among those interested in contributing to the project and probably move to IRC or some other more document-able solution once the initial groundwork for the project is laid and high-bandwidth communication isn't as vital.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Stephen<br><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Samuel Bercovici <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:SamuelB@radware.com" target="_blank">SamuelB@radware.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I prefer IRC only.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As I am located in Israel and so are other Radware people, it is easier for us to use IRC which is also more available from more devices and locations.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">OpenStack has chosen IRC as a way to allow different people from different places and different speaking capabilities to work together and this has proven fine
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">My personal opinion is I prefer the IRC meetings right now. I, personally, don't get any more value out of a video chat than I would with an IRC meeting. However,
I know others do get more out of it, and that includes people on my team at Rackspace. Basically, what I am saying is I'd be fine with only doing the IRC meeting, at least for now. Once more focus is put on Octavia, then it would need its own meeting.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Have the IRC meetings been time constrained or unproductive? Having a pre-meeting before the IRC meeting risks being exclusionary to the folks that can’t make it for that timezone, and I haven’t seen that the
IRC meetings are having communication/decision issues, beyond it being bloody dang early.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The webex time slot is open for whatever, and if this is what the group wants to use it for, by all means go for it. But IMO, just cloning the IRC meeting is something that doesn’t sound right to me.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Earlier in the meetings we discussed using the Wednesday meeting for only Octavia discussions. One of my teammates would like to allocate the Wednesday meeting
time for face-to-face discussions of the same meeting topics we have on Thursday morning. I think its a good idea to use the time that way at least until Octavia is more of a priority. Does anyone else share this same concern? Do we think that's a good
use of that time?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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