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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My vote is for option #2 (without the registration). It is simpler to start with this approach. How is delete handled though?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ex. What is the expectation when user attempts to delete a certificate/container which is referred by an entity like LBaaS listener?
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Will there be validation in Barbican to prevent this? *<b>OR</b>*
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">LBaaS listener will have a dangling reference/pointer to certificate?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Vijay V.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Stephen Balukoff [mailto:sbalukoff@bluebox.net]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Barbican Neutron LBaaS Integration Ideas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Weighing in here:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm all for option #2 as well.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Clint Byrum <<a href="mailto:clint@fewbar.com" target="_blank">clint@fewbar.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Excerpts from Douglas Mendizabal's message of 2014-06-09 16:08:02 -0700:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">> Hi all,<br>
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> I’m strongly in favor of having immutable TLS-typed containers, and very<br>
> much opposed to storing every revision of changes done to a container. I<br>
> think that storing versioned containers would add too much complexity to<br>
> Barbican, where immutable containers would work well.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Agree completely. Create a new one for new values. Keep the old ones<br>
while they're still active.<o:p></o:p></p>
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> I’m still not sold on the idea of registering services with Barbican, even<br>
> though (or maybe especially because) Barbican would not be using this data<br>
> for anything. I understand the problem that we’re trying to solve by<br>
> associating different resources across projects, but I don’t feel like<br>
> Barbican is the right place to do this.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Agreed also, this is simply not Barbican or Neutron's role. Be a REST<br>
API for secrets and networking, not all dancing all singing nannies that<br>
prevent any possibly dangerous behavior with said API's.<o:p></o:p></p>
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> It seems we’re leaning towards option #2, but I would argue that<br>
> orchestration of services is outside the scope of Barbican’s role as a<br>
> secret-store. I think this is a problem that may need to be solved at a<br>
> higher level. Maybe an openstack-wide registry of dependend entities<br>
> across services?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">An optional openstack-wide registry of depended entities is called<br>
"Heat".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>
Stephen Balukoff <br>
Blue Box Group, LLC <br>
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