<div dir="ltr">Hi folks,<div><br></div><div>Ok, I've attached a newly-updated object diagram (and its source) which is hopefully both a little bit clearer than the monstrosity I created for the summit, and also incorporates a couple agreed-upon changes at the summit. Notes about this:</div>
<div><br></div><div><ul><li>The grayed-out object (LBtoListener and VIPGroupToAntiGroup) are simply there to show the database objects that will be used to express the n:m relationship between VIPs and Listeners, and VIPGroups and VIPAntiGroups. The user API will have no direct access to these "join" objects.</li>
<li>I've update the TLSCertificate object to reflect that we intend to use barbican to manage TLS certificates.</li><li>I've also split out a 'TLS CA Chain' object from the TLS Certificate object since it has much different usage than the TLS Certificate object and after talking with y'all (especially Samuel) I think this is probably clearer. Note that it might be possible to manage the CA chains in barbican as well if they eventually add full certificate management... however I'm not showing this here, as a CA chain is public data, so there's no reason we couldn't safely store this in the Neutron database. (And we probably don't need full certificate management for CA chains.)</li>
<li>There may be a few missing fields (for example, I think status needs to be two fields?) In any case, I think I've captured all the most consequential ones.</li></ul><div>Also:</div><ul><li>We talked briefly about the differences between Samuel's proposed L7 Policies / Rules proposal and my proposal in the Friday LBaaS meeting, however we deferred full discussion of this to the mailing list. What it boils down to is essentially whether people think there will be a need to re-use L7Policies. (L7Policies in both our proposals are a group of L7Rules that get logically ANDed together). Perhaps we should start this discussion in another thread?</li>
<li>We're also not 100% in agreement over how TLS SNI Policies should work. I'm unclear on Samuel's model here, and I think this is something else we deferred to discussion on the mailing list.</li></ul><div>Oh and! Please keep in mind that I think both Eugene and Samuel were going to be on vacation this week. :)</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Stephen</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Youcef Laribi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Youcef.Laribi@citrix.com" target="_blank">Youcef.Laribi@citrix.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks Susanne, and was great meeting many of you. Actually I was trying to find an updated version of the object model that was presented at the summit but
couldn’t find it. Is there a link online?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 19, 2014 2:07 PM</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Great summit!! fantastic to meeting you all in person. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We now have agreement on the Object model. How do we turn that into blueprints and also how do we start making progress on the rest of the items we agree upon at the summit?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:07 AM, Brandon Logan <<a href="mailto:brandon.logan@rackspace.com" target="_blank">brandon.logan@rackspace.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Eugene Nikanorov <<a href="mailto:enikanorov@mirantis.com" target="_blank">enikanorov@mirantis.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">It's allowed right now just per API. It's up to a backend to decide the status of a node in case some monitors find it dead.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:41 AM, Brandon Logan <<a href="mailto:brandon.logan@rackspace.com" target="_blank">brandon.logan@rackspace.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I have concerns about multiple health monitors on the same pool. Is this always going to be the same type of health monitor? There’s also ambiguity in the case
where one health monitor fails and another doesn’t. Is it an AND or OR that determines whether the member is down or not?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Eugene Nikanorov <<a href="mailto:enikanorov@mirantis.com" target="_blank">enikanorov@mirantis.com</a>><br>
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 15, 2014 at 9:55 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Pools-monitors are still many to many, if it's not so on the picture - we'll fix that.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I brought this up as an example of how we dealt with m:n via API.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Vijay Venkatachalam <<a href="mailto:Vijay.Venkatachalam@citrix.com" target="_blank">Vijay.Venkatachalam@citrix.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks for the clarification. Eugene.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">A tangential point since you brought healthmon and pool.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">There will be an additional entity called ‘PoolMonitorAssociation’ which results in a many to many
relationship between pool and monitors. Right?</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Now, the model is indicating a pool can have only one monitor. So a minor correction is required
to indicate the many to many relationship via PoolMonitorAssociation. </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">When you say API is not available, it means this should not be considered like a resource/entity.
Correct?</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">But then, there would be API like a bind API, that accepts loadbalancer_id & listener_id, which
creates this object. </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">And also, there would be an API that will be used to list the listeners of a LoadBalancer.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Right?</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Right, that's the same as health monitors and pools work right now: there are separate REST action to associate healthmon to a pool<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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