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<div>I agree it may be odd, but is that a strong argument? To me, following RESTful style/constructs is the main thing to consider. If people can specify everything in the parent resource then let them (i.e. single call). If they want to specify at a more granular
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">--Jorge</font></font></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Youcef Laribi <<a href="mailto:Youcef.Laribi@citrix.com">Youcef.Laribi@citrix.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:35 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Conforming to Open Stack API style in LBaaS<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Sam,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I think it’s important to keep the Neutron API style consistent. It would be odd if LBaaS uses a different style than the rest of the Neutron APIs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Youcef<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> Samuel Bercovici [<a href="mailto:SamuelB@Radware.com">mailto:SamuelB@Radware.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Conforming to Open Stack API style in LBaaS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">During the last few days I have looked into the different LBaaS API proposals.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have also looked on the API style used in Neutron. I wanted to see how Neutron APIs addressed “tree” like object models.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Follows my observation:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">      
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; ">Security groups -  <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/security-groups-ext.html">http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/security-groups-ext.html</a>)
 – <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><a href="http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/GET_security-groups-v2.0_listSecGroupRules_v2.0_security-group-rules_security-groups-ext.html" title="List security group rules"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">security-group-rules</span></a>
 are children of <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/GET_security-groups-v2.0_listSecGroups_v2.0_security-groups_security-groups-ext.html" title="List security groups">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">security-groups</span></a>, the capability to create a security group with its children in a single call is not possible.
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; ">The capability to create
</span><a href="http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/GET_security-groups-v2.0_listSecGroupRules_v2.0_security-group-rules_security-groups-ext.html" title="List security group rules"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">security-group-rules</span></a>
 using the following URI path <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/GET_security-groups-v2.0_listSecGroups_v2.0_security-groups_security-groups-ext.html" title="List security groups">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">v2.0/security-groups</span></a>/{SG-ID}/<a href="http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/GET_security-groups-v2.0_listSecGroupRules_v2.0_security-group-rules_security-groups-ext.html" title="List security group rules"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">security-group-rules</span></a>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]-->The capability to update <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/GET_security-groups-v2.0_listSecGroupRules_v2.0_security-group-rules_security-groups-ext.html" title="List security group rules">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; ">security-group-rules</span></a> using the following URI path
<a href="http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/GET_security-groups-v2.0_listSecGroups_v2.0_security-groups_security-groups-ext.html" title="List security groups">
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</span></span></span></strong><!--[endif]-->Firewall as a service - <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/fwaas_ext.html">
http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/fwaas_ext.html</a> - the API to manage
<strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-weight: normal; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">firewall_policy and firewall_rule which have parent child relationships behaves the same way as Security groups</span></strong><strong><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></strong></p>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; ">Group Policy – this is work in progress -
<a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/GroupPolicy">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/GroupPolicy</a> - If I understand correctly, this API has a complex object model while the API adheres to the way other neutron APIs are done (ex: flat model,
 granular api, etc.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; ">How critical is it to preserve a consistent API style for LBaaS?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; ">Should this be a consideration when evaluating API proposals?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; ">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: 'Segoe UI', sans-serif; ">            -Sam.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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