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<div>Thanks for the input. I too was thinking "IP Access Control" could be solved with the firewall service in Neutron. To clarify what I mean check out our current API docs on this feature <a href="http://docs.rackspace.com/loadbalancers/api/v1.0/clb-devguide/content/Manage_Access_Lists-d1e3187.html">here</a>.</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Eugene Nikanorov <<a href="mailto:enikanorov@mirantis.com">enikanorov@mirantis.com</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:35 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements Wiki<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi folks, my comments inlined:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Youcef Laribi <span dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Jorge,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thanks for taking the time to put up a requirements list. Some comments below:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Static IP Addresses
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<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Our current Cloud Load Balancing (CLB) offering utilizes static IP addresses which is something our customers really like, especially when setting up DNS. AWS
for example, gives you an A record which you CNAME to.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">This should also already be addressed, as you can today specify the VIP’s IP address explicitly on creation. We do not have DNS-based support for
LB like in AWS ELB though.</span></p>
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<div>Right, it's already there. Probably that's why it confused me :)</div>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Active/Passive Failover
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<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I think this is solved with multiple pools.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">The multiple pools support that is coming with L7 rules is to support content-switching based on L7 HTTP information (URL, headers, etc.). There
is no support today for an active vs. passive pool.</span></p>
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<div>I'm not sure that's the priority. It depends on if this is widely supported among vendors.</div>
<div> <span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </span></div>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">IP Access Control
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<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Our current CLB offering allows the user to restrict access through their load balancer by blacklisting/whitelisting cidr blocks and even individual ip addresses.
This is just a basic security feature.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Is this controlling access to the VIP’s IP address or to pool members IP addresses? There is also a Firewall service in Neutron. Could this feature
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<div>Agree, it's better to utilize what fwaas has to offer.</div>
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<div>Eugene.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Youcef<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> Jorge Miramontes [mailto:<a href="mailto:jorge.miramontes@RACKSPACE.COM" target="_blank">jorge.miramontes@RACKSPACE.COM</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:44 AM</span></p>
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<div class="h5"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements Wiki<u></u><u></u></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Oleg, thanks for the updates.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Eugene, High/Medium/Low is fine with me. I really just wanted to find a way to rank even amongst all of 'X' priorities. As people start adding more items we may need more
columns to add things such as this, links to blueprints (per Ryan's idea), etc. In terms of the requirements marked with a '?' I can try to clarify here:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Static IP Addresses
<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<ul type="disc">
<ul type="circle">
<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Our current Cloud Load Balancing (CLB) offering utilizes static IP addresses which is something our customers really like, especially when setting up DNS. AWS
for example, gives you an A record which you CNAME to.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
</ul>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Active/Passive Failover
<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<ul type="disc">
<ul type="circle">
<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I think this is solved with multiple pools.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">IP Access Control
<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<ul type="disc">
<ul type="circle">
<li class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Our current CLB offering allows the user to restrict access through their load balancer by blacklisting/whitelisting cidr blocks and even individual ip addresses.
This is just a basic security feature.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">--Jorge<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Eugene Nikanorov <<a href="mailto:enikanorov@mirantis.com" target="_blank">enikanorov@mirantis.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:32 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Requirements Wiki<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Hi Jorge,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thanks for taking care of the page. I've added priorities, although I'm not sure we need precise priority weights.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Those features that still have '?' need further clarification.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Eugene.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Oleg Bondarev <<a href="mailto:obondarev@mirantis.com" target="_blank">obondarev@mirantis.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Hi Jorge,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thanks for taking care of this and bringing it all together! This will be really useful for LBaaS discussions.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I updated the wiki to include L7 rules support and also marking already implemented requirements.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Oleg<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Jorge Miramontes <<a href="mailto:jorge.miramontes@rackspace.com" target="_blank">jorge.miramontes@rackspace.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Hey Neutron LBaaS folks,<br>
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Per last week's IRC meeting I have created a preliminary requirements &<br>
use case wiki page. I requested adding such a page since there appears to<br>
be a lot of new interest in load balancing and feel that we need a<br>
structured way to align everyone's interest in the project. Furthermore,<br>
it appears that understanding everyone's requirements and use cases will<br>
aid in the current object model discussion we all have been having. That<br>
being said, this wiki is malleable and open to discussion. I have added<br>
some preliminary requirements from my team's perspective in order to start<br>
the discussion. My vision is that people add requirements and use cases to<br>
the wiki for what they envision Neutron LBaaS becoming. That way, we can<br>
all discuss as a group, figure out what should and shouldn't be a<br>
requirement and prioritize the rest in an effort to focus development<br>
efforts. ReadyŠsetŠgo!<br>
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Here is the link to the wiki ==><br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/requirements" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/requirements</a><br>
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Cheers,<br>
--Jorge<br>
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