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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2014年01月10日 00:49, Robert Li (baoli)
      wrote:<br>
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    HI, all<br>
    <br>
    basiclly i flavor† the pic-flavor style and against massing† the
    white-list. please see my inline comments.† <br>
    <br>
    <br>
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      <div>With John joining the IRC, so far, we had a couple of
        productive meetings in an effort to come to consensus and move
        forward. Thanks John for doing that, and I appreciate everyone's
        effort to make it to the daily meeting. Let's reconvene on
        Monday.†</div>
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      <div>But before that, and based on our today's conversation on
        IRC, I'd like to say a few things. I think that first of all, we
        need to get agreement on the terminologies that we are using so
        far. With the current nova PCI passthrough</div>
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      <div>† † † † PCI whitelist: defines all the available PCI
        passthrough devices on a compute node.†<span
          style="background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); color: rgb(51,
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          monospace; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20px; white-space:
          pre-wrap; ">pci_passthrough_whitelist=[{
          "vendor_id":"xxxx","product_id":"xxxx"}]†</span></div>
      <div>† † † † PCI Alias: criteria defined on the controller node
        with which requested PCI passthrough devices can be selected
        from all the PCI passthrough devices available in a cloud.†</div>
      <div>† † † † † † † † Currently it has the following format:†<span
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          pre-wrap; ">pci_alias={"vendor_id":"xxxx",
          "product_id":"xxxx", "name":"str"}</span></div>
      <div>† † † ††</div>
      <div>† † † † nova flavor extra_specs: request for PCI passthrough
        devices can be specified with extra_specs in the format for
        example:<span style="background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
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          white-space: pre-wrap; ">"pci_passthrough:alias"="name:count"</span></div>
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      <div>As you can see, currently a PCI alias has a name and is
        defined on the controller. The implications for it is that when
        matching it against the PCI devices, it has to match the
        vendor_id and product_id against all the available PCI devices
        until one is found. The name is only used for reference in the
        extra_specs. On the other hand, the whitelist is basically the
        same as the alias without a name.</div>
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      </div>
      <div>What we have discussed so far is based on something called
        PCI groups (or PCI flavors as Yongli puts it). Without
        introducing other complexities, and with a little change of the
        above representation, we will have something like:</div>
      <div>† † † ††</div>
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          rgb(245, 245, 245); ">pci_passthrough_whitelist=[{
          "vendor_id":"xxxx","product_id":"xxxx", "name":"str"}]†</span></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>By doing so, we eliminated the PCI alias. And we call the
        "name" in above as a PCI group name. You can think of it as
        combining the definitions of the existing whitelist and PCI
        alias. And believe it or not, a PCI group is actually a PCI
        alias. However, with that change of thinking, a lot of </div>
    </blockquote>
    the white list configuration is mostly local to a host, so only
    address in there, like John's proposal is good. mix the group into
    the whitelist means we make the global thing per host style, this is
    maybe wrong. <br>
    <br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:CEF41940.362F5%25baoli@cisco.com" type="cite">
      <div>benefits can be harvested:</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>† † † † †* the implementation is significantly simplified</div>
    </blockquote>
    but more mass, refer my new patches already sent out.<br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:CEF41940.362F5%25baoli@cisco.com" type="cite">
      <div>† † † † †* provisioning is simplified by eliminating the PCI
        alias</div>
    </blockquote>
    pci alias provide a good way to define a global reference-able name
    for PCI, we need this, this is also true for John's pci-flavor.<br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:CEF41940.362F5%25baoli@cisco.com" type="cite">
      <div>† † † † †* a compute node only needs to report stats with
        something like: PCI group name:count. A compute node processes
        all the PCI passthrough devices against the whitelist, and
        assign a PCI group based on the whitelist definition.</div>
    </blockquote>
    simplify this seems like good, but it does not, separated the local
    and global is the instinct nature simplify.<br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:CEF41940.362F5%25baoli@cisco.com" type="cite">
      <div>† † † † †* on the controller, we may only need to define the
        PCI group names.†if we use a nova api to define PCI groups
        (could be private or public, for example),†one potential
        benefit, among other things (validation, etc), †they can be
        owned by the tenant that creates them. And thus a wholesale of
        PCI passthrough devices is also possible.</div>
    </blockquote>
    this mean you should consult the controller to deploy your host, if
    we keep white-list local, we simplify the deploy.<br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:CEF41940.362F5%25baoli@cisco.com" type="cite">
      <div>† † † † †* scheduler only works with PCI group names.†</div>
      <div>† † † † †* request for PCI passthrough device is based on
        PCI-group</div>
      <div>† † † † †* deployers can provision the cloud based on the PCI
        groups</div>
      <div>† † † † †* Particularly for SRIOV, deployers can design SRIOV
        PCI groups based on network connectivities.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Further, to support SRIOV, we are saying that PCI group names
        not only can be used in the extra specs, it can also be used in
        the ónic option and the neutron commands. This allows the most
        flexibilities and functionalities afforded by SRIOV.</div>
    </blockquote>
    i still feel use alias/pci flavor is better solution.<br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:CEF41940.362F5%25baoli@cisco.com" type="cite">
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Further, we are saying that we can define default PCI groups
        based on the PCI device's class.</div>
    </blockquote>
    default grouping make our conceptual model more mass, pre-define a
    global thing in API and your hard code is not good way, i post -2
    for this.<br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:CEF41940.362F5%25baoli@cisco.com" type="cite">
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>For vnic-type (or nic-type), we are saying that it defines
        the link characteristics of the nic that is attached to a VM: a
        nic that's connected to a virtual switch, a nic that is
        connected to a physical switch, or a nic that is connected to a
        physical switch, but has a host macvtap device in between. The
        actual names of the choices are not important here, and can be
        debated.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I'm hoping that we can go over the above on Monday. But any
        comments are welcome by email.</div>
      <div><br>
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      <div>Thanks,</div>
      <div>Robert</div>
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