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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/27/2013 05:27 AM, Nadya Privalova
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                            <div>Hello guys!<br>
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                            I hope all of you are enjoying the holidays!
                            But I'd like to raise a Tempest question.
                            Again. I hope this email will not be lost
                            after vacations :) <br>
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                          After the summit we decided to track all tests
                          that are being created for Ceilometer in
                          Tempest here: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/add-basic-ceilometer-tests">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/add-basic-ceilometer-tests</a>.
                          Besides, we've created an etherpad page with a
                          test plan <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-test-plan">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-test-plan</a>.<br>
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                        But it turned out that it works very bad. Now we
                        have at least 3 change requests that have common
                        functionality implemented. So we definitely need
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                      That's why I suggest to create a separate
                      blueprint for each functionality. E.g. "Ceilometer
                      client for Tempest", "Notification testing" with
                      several bps that depend on it ("Swift
                      notifications", "Glance notifications", "Nova
                      notifications") and so on. In future we may vary
                      the detail level of blueprints but now we need
                      very detailed ones because different people have
                      started to work on e.g. notifications.<br>
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                    So there are the following action items:<br>
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                  1. Resolve all conflicts in changes that are on review
                  now (see my comment to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39237/">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39237/</a>
                  patch set 21 for more details)<br>
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                2. Create set of blueprints from the testplan we have<br>
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              3. Add Tempest discussions to Ceilometer weekly meeting
              agenda (done)<br>
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            I may take care of all the items above. I need only "ok"
            from PTLs and Cores. <br>
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          Anyway, we've started working on 1st item, because it is
          urgent. The second one may be postponed due to holidays. <br>
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        And one more important thing. Code review for Ceilometer tests
        in Tempest is too slow. Some of change requests are created
        almost a half a year ago! Ceilometer guys, please be informed. I
        think all of us are interested in good tests.<br>
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                <div>Thank you for attention,<br>
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                <div>Nadya<br>
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    Thanks, Nadya. A similar issue came up with heat. The problem is
    that tempest really has two parts: the tempest infrastructure
    itself, and all the test files for the various projects. The tempest
    team needs to manage its blueprints and we can't do that if there
    are dozens of blueprints about test implementation across projects.
    This problem is exacerbated by the fact that launchpad is not a good
    tool for project management which is the issue you are dealing with.
    For now, the best thing would be to have a master blueprint in
    tempest. If you want it to point to sub-blueprints for various test
    areas, use blueprints in the ceilometer project rather than tempest.<br>
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     -David<br>
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