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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2013年12月24日 04:50, Robert Li (baoli)
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        Hi Irena,</div>
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        I agree with you on the following copied from another thread: </div>
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            sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I  would like to
            suggest to focus the next PCI-pass through IRC meeting on:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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              "> Closing the administration and tenant that powers the
              VM use cases.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              ">Decouple the nova and neutron parts to start focusing on
              the neutron related details.</span></p>
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        <font style="text-indent: -0.25in; " face="Calibri" size="3">But
          so far, we haven't been able to reach agreement on the first
          part. I saw discussions on "</font><font style="text-indent:
          -0.25in; " face="Calibri" size="3">nic-flavor" from John. I'd
          like to know more details about it. What exactly it is, how it
          is defined, etc.</font></div>
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        <span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;
          text-indent: -0.25in; ">Let's continue our discussion
          tomorrow. Here is the agenda that I'd like to discuss. Folks,
          please add yours if you have specific things to discuss.</span></div>
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          <font face="Calibri" size="3">-- Auto Discovery</font></p>
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          <font face="Calibri" size="3"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"> It
              seems to be in agreement that this is something we should
              have, but in </font>disagreement when it's needed.</font></p>
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          <font face="Calibri" size="3">different proposals:</font></p>
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          <font face="Calibri" size="3">      *  it can be done later</font></p>
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          <font face="Calibri" size="3">      * the class of a PCI
            device can determine, in particular, if it's a networking
            device. With that, SRIOV may be achieved in a cloud with
            minimum configuration. Therefore, it should be done now.</font></p>
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          <font face="Calibri" size="3"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">--
              PCI group (or PCI flavor) and PCI passthrough list
              (whitelist). </font></font></p>
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          <font size="3"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><font
                face="Calibri">     * We should finalize the
                terminology: pci-group or pci-flavor. In the rest of the
                email, I use the term pci-group</font></font></font></p>
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          <font face="Calibri" size="3"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">there
              are a couple of ways to </font>provision<font
              face="Calibri,sans-serif"> them</font></font></p>
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                 * by configuration/provisioning on the compute nodes</font></font></p>
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                 * by nova APIs. The API can define them per compute
              node.</font></font></p>
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          <font face="Calibri" size="3"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">With
              regard to configuration</font></font></p>
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                 * different ways/formats are suggested</font></font></p>
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          <font style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size:
            14px; " face="Calibri" size="3">With regard to nova PCI
            group APIs:</font></p>
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          <font style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size:
            14px; " face="Calibri" size="3">different proposals:</font></p>
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          <font style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size:
            14px; " face="Calibri" size="3">     * no API at all</font></p>
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          <font style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size:
            14px; " face="Calibri" size="3">     * pci-group-create is
             a good thing to have, but pci-group-update is not</font></p>
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               *  have both pci-group-create & pci-group-update, and
          get rid of the configuration method. pci-group-update can
          define PCI devices per compute node</p>
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               * it might be possible to use both the configuration
          method, and the nova APIs with pci-group-update not defining
          per compute node devices.</p>
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          <font face="Calibri" size="3">-- nova boot</font></p>
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                 * exclusive use of the server flavor to specify PCI
              device requirements, adding new arguments to neutron
              port-create for PCI related information</font></font></p>
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          <font size="3"><font style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
              " face="Calibri">     * adding new optional arguments in
              the </font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">—</font><font
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              option for SRIOV, in the same time </font><font
              face="Calibri">preserving</font><font style="font-family:
              Calibri, sans-serif; " face="Calibri"> the server flavor
              approach for </font><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">generic</font><font
              face="Calibri,sans-serif"><font face="Calibri"> PCI
                passthrough. In addition, neutron port-create should be </font>enhanced<font
                face="Calibri"> to be able to specify PCI related
                information as well.</font></font></font></p>
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                face="Calibri">     * Also there are different opinions
                on what optional arguments should be added in the </font>—<font
                face="Calibri">nic option. </font></font></font></p>
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          text-indent: -0.25in; text-align: left; ">On the neutron
          front, yes, we haven't be able to discuss all the details yet.
          We can start dedicating a portion of the meeting time for it.</span></div>
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          out for Icehouse. We need to come to agreement ASAP. I will be
          out from wednesday until after new year. I'm thinking that to
          move it forward after the new year, we may need to have the
          IRC meeting in a daily basis until we </font><span
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    <font face="Calibri,sans-serif">we should invite John here, or there
      is might be problem.</font><br>
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          new year's resolutions?</font></div>
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          <div>On 12/23/13 8:34 AM, "Irena Berezovsky" <<a
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
                    125); ">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
                    125); ">Is there ‘PCI pass-through network’ IRC
                    meeting tomorrow?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
                    125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
                    125); ">BR,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
                    125); ">Irena<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:
                          10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span
                        style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
                        sans-serif; "> Robert Li (baoli) [<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:baoli@cisco.com">mailto:baoli@cisco.com</a>]
                        <br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:32 PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> Sandhya Dasu (sadasu); OpenStack
                        Development Mailing List (not for usage
                        questions); Jiang, Yunhong; Irena Berezovsky;
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com">prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com</a>;
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:chris.friesen@windriver.com">chris.friesen@windriver.com</a>;
                        Itzik Brown;
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:john@johngarbutt.com">john@johngarbutt.com</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [nova]
                        [neutron] Todays' meeting log: PCI pass-through
                        network support<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">Sorry guys, I
                        didn't #startmeeting before the meeting. But
                        here is the log from today's meeting. Updated
                        the subject a bit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><</span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">irenab</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">> baoli: hi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[08:57] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> Hi
                        Irena<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[08:57] </span></span><span
                        class="xc4"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">tedross</span> [tedross@nat/redhat/x-culmgvjwkhbnuyww]

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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[08:58] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><</span><span
                        class="xc4"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">irenab</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">> baoli:
                        unfortunately I cannot participate actively
                        today, will try to follow the log and email
                        later to day<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[08:59] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> ok<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          href="mailto:%7Eqicruser@2.55.138.181">~qicruser@2.55.138.181</a>]
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">tedross</span> [tedross@nat/redhat/x-culmgvjwkhbnuyww]

                        has left <span class="hyperlink-channel">#openstack-meeting-alt</span> []<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:01] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">jcooley_</span> [<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:%7Ejcooley@c-76-104-157-9.hsd1.wa.comcast.net">~jcooley@c-76-104-157-9.hsd1.wa.comcast.net</a>]
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:03] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> Hi,
                        is Yongli there?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">yjiang51</span> [yjiang5@nat/intel/x-uobnfwflcweybytj]

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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:04] </span></span><span
                        class="xc4"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">jdob</span> [<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:%7Ejdob@c-50-166-75-72.hsd1.nj.comcast.net">~jdob@c-50-166-75-72.hsd1.nj.comcast.net</a>]
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:04] </span></span><span
                        class="xc4"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">jdob_</span> [<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:%7Ejdob@c-50-166-75-72.hsd1.nj.comcast.net">~jdob@c-50-166-75-72.hsd1.nj.comcast.net</a>]
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:04] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><</span><span
                        class="xc4"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">yjiang51</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">> baoli: hi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:05] </span></span><span
                        class="xc4"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">hajay__</span> [<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:%7Ehajay@99-46-140-220.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net">~hajay@99-46-140-220.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net</a>]
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:05] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>>
                        yjang: hi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:05] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><</span><span
                        class="xc4"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">yjiang51</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">> baoli: do
                        we have the meeting?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:05] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> Yes,
                        it's on. Hopefully, Yongli will join<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:07] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:07] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><</span><span
                        class="xc4"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">yjiang51</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">> baoli:
                        got it and thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:07] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:07] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span> [<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:%7Eyhe@221.216.132.130">~yhe@221.216.132.130</a>]
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:07] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> yhe,
                        HI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:08] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        hello, every one<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:08] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">yjiang51</span>>
                        heyongli: hi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> Hi
                        everyone, let's start<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>>
                        Yongli has summarized his wiki with his email<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>> i
                        just arrived home from hospital, sorry late<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> yhe,
                        np. Hopefully, you are well<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        my, son.  so i think you might worry about he
                        use case right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> Can
                        we start with pci-flaovr/pci-group definition?
                        Do we agree that they are the same?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>> in
                        my brain, it's a filter with name, but in the
                        flat dict structure, no sub pci-filter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> Well,
                        we want to agree conceptually.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        cause for me it's just a  the white list with
                        name, so conceptually it's simple, can be
                        describe clear in this way<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:14] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> Ok.
                        So, they all define a group of devices with
                        similar properties.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        agree<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> great<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        any other concern for the flavor?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> Now,
                        it seems to me that pci-flavor can be defined by
                        both nova API and by means of configuration<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> from
                        your email<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        config is going to fade out<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        for config fade out, any concern?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> in
                        your email, what is "admin config sriov"?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        just mean this step is done by admin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        John want the picture for user and for admin is
                        clearly defined<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> We
                        have some concerns over phasing out the
                        configuration<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:19] </span></span><span
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> Did
                        you check the log from last meeting?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:19] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>> i
                        do, but not see the strong reason<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:20] </span></span><span
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> How
                        is it in your mind the nova pci-flavor-update is
                        going to be used?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:20] </span></span><span
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:20] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        just the the whole content for the filter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:21] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> Well,
                        I'd like to know who is going to invoke it and
                        when<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:21] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        toltaly replace or set the new defination for
                        the flavor<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:21] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:21] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        define this , then the device is pass the
                        whitelist and got group into a flavor<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:22] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> Soirry
                        I'm late<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:22] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:22] </span></span><span
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> ijw:
                        np<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:22] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:22] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">eankutse</span> [<a
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:23] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        this is just the whitelist's DB version, via API<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:24] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>>
                        Apologies for jumping in, but did we do the
                        API/no-API discussion yet?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:24] </span></span><span
                        class="xc4"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:24] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        current topic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:25] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>>
                        heyongli: let's assume a new compute node is
                        added, what do you do to provision it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:25] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:25] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        2.1.1 admin check PCI devices present per host<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:25] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> I would
                        ask, given that Openstack's design tenets are
                        all about decentralising where possible, why
                        would you centralise the entirety of the PCI
                        information?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:26] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> Have to
                        admit I came a bit late to that document -
                        because all the work was going on in the other
                        doducment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:26] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> Which
                        didn't mention this at all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:26] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        this is not relevent to tenet, it's admin's work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:27] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> It's
                        actually not the problem.  It's not that it's
                        not relevant to the tenant, it's why you have to
                        actively do anything to add a compute node at
                        all.  In every other respect a compute node
                        joins the cluster with no activity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:27] </span></span><span
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">yamahata__</span> [<a
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:28] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> So, for
                        instance, I boot a compute node, RAM goes up,
                        disk goes up, CPUs go up, but I've not had to
                        edit a central table to do that, the compute
                        node reports in and it just happens.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:28] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">abramley</span> [<a
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:28] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> I like
                        this - it means when I provision a cluster I
                        just have to get each node to provision
                        correctly and the cluster is up.  Conversely
                        when the node goes down the resources go away.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:28] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">esker</span> [<a
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:29] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">denis_makogon</span> [<a
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:29] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        cause pci-flavor is  global, you don't need to
                        config it specifically,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:29] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> So I
                        would strongly argue that the nodes should
                        decide what PCI passthrough devices they have,
                        independently and without reference to central
                        authority.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:29] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"> <span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">jcooley_</span> [<a
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:30] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> Yes,
                        but that says that all my nodes are either
                        identical or similar, and while that may be true
                        it makes more sense to keep that configuration
                        on and with the machine rather than in a central
                        DB just in case it's not.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        ijw: suppose you had 500 server's bring in, all
                        with same configration, like same slot for a
                        same pci device<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> Yup,
                        then I would boot them up all with the same
                        config file on each, same as I install the same
                        software on each.  That's a devops problem and
                        it's got plenty of solutions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>>
                        heyongli, a pci-flaovr is a global name. But
                        what's part of a pci-flaovr is a matter of the
                        compute host that supports that flavor<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        then you got this flow to easily bring all them
                        up ready for pci: export the flavor in aggreate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        heyongli: If I were doing this with puppet, or
                        chef, or ansible, or whatever, I would work out
                        what type of host I had and put a config on it
                        to suit.  This is solving a problem that doesn't
                        exist.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> And
                        aggregates divide machines by location,
                        generally, not type.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> In
                        summary, do not like.  I don't understand why
                        it's a good idea to use APIs to describe basic
                        hardware details.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>>
                        yeyongli: I think that you agreed the aggregate
                        is a high level construct. It has nothing to do
                        with how a compute node decides what devices
                        belong to which pci-flavor/pci-group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>> i
                        might wrong, but aggregate bp say it's a sub
                        group of hosts with same property that's why
                        aggregate's meta data and scheduler do it's work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>>
                        Aggregates are there for scheduling, though, not
                        provisioning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>>
                        yeyongli: i have no problem with nova
                        pci-flavor-create, but with nova
                        pci-flavor-update<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> so,
                        aggregate can still work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:34] </span></span><span
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> I have
                        a problem with using APIs and the database to do
                        this *at all*.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:35] </span></span><span
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        what's that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> That we
                        shouldn't be storing this information
                        centrally.  This is exactly what per-host config
                        files are for.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:36] </span></span><span
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> ijw:
                        let's focus on the API versus configuration. Not
                        diverage to use of DB.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> Also,
                        this is not something that changes on a whim, it
                        changes precisely and only when the hardware in
                        your cluster changes, so it seems to me that
                        using a config file will make that happen per
                        the devops comments above, and using APIs is
                        solving a problem that doesn't really exist.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:37] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        acctually i argued for the aggregate is is
                        for  provisioning, failed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:37] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><</span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">ijw</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">> baoli:
                        there's no disctinction to speak of.  The APIs
                        clearly change a data model that lives somewhere
                        that is not on the individual compute hosts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:38] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> So, why
                        do we need this to be changeable by API at all,
                        and why should the information be stored
                        centrally?  These are the two questions I want
                        answers to for this proposal to make sense.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:38] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        hi, ijw, if use per host setting there still
                        need a central thing: the alias, but alias is
                        fade out also<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:39] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> No, you
                        don't, you can work out aliases/groups/whatever
                        by what compute hosts report.  Only the
                        scheduler needs to know it and it can work it
                        out on the fly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:39] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>> so
                        global flavor combined the whitelist and flavor<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>> if
                        no global thing, how do you know there is 'sth'
                        to be ready for use?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:40] </span></span><span
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> That's
                        what the scheduler does.  Practically speaking
                        you never know if you can schedule a machine
                        until you schedule a machine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:40] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">yjiang51</span>>
                        ijw: heyongli, I think we need persuade john if
                        we have anything different. Is it possible to
                        get John on this meeting?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:40] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> The
                        only difference in what you're saying is that
                        you couldn't validate a launch command against
                        groups when it's placed, and that's certainly a
                        weakness, but not a very big one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:41] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        ijw: no, you must provide you request to
                        scheduele, so how do you want tell the schedule
                        what you want?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:41] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> Which
                        John?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:41] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>>
                        extra_specs in the flavor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:41] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> Listing
                        PCI aliases and counts rather than PCI flavors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:42] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> This
                        assumes that your aliases are named by string so
                        that you can refer to them (which is an idea I
                        largely stole from the way provider network
                        work, btw)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:43] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>>
                        heyongli: I guess that we didn't do a good job
                        in the google doc in describing how the
                        pci-group works. Otherwise, it describes exactly
                        why alias is not needed, and pci-group should
                        work<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> So, in
                        my scheme: 1. you tell the compute host that PCI
                        device x is usable by passthrough with flavor
                        'fred'.  You schedule a machine requesting one
                        of 'fred' in its flavor, and the scheduler finds
                        the host.  This is back to the simple mechanism
                        we have now, I don't really thing it needs
                        complicating.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> Sorry,
                        s/flavor/group/ in the first location that last
                        comment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:47] </span></span><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> Bad
                        moment time for network trouble…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">yjiang51</span>>
                        ijw: yes, seems he lose the connection<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:50] </span></span><span
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">yjiang51</span>>
                        ijw: but I agree that if we need create pci
                        flavor each time to make compute node's PCI
                        information available seems not so
                        straightforward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:51] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> Well,
                        turning this around the other way, if you
                        described the groups of PCI devices that a
                        compute node was offering in the configuration
                        of the compute node, what's the problem with
                        that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:52] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        ijw: np, but alias is killed during the blue
                        print review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:52] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> keep
                        in mind, this is provisioning task on the part
                        of compute nodes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:52] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        btw: i'm lost connection, so i don't you you see
                        this, i just paste again:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:53] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        <heyongli> yeah, what's in the extra_spec?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:53] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        <heyongli> currently in the extra spec is
                        alias,  what would you save in there?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:53] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        <heyongli> no matter what you save there,
                        that's will be global thing or something like
                        alias currently been implemented.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:53] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        <heyongli> you can not elimation a global
                        thing there, but the room for argue is where is
                        should be define<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:53] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        <heyongli> where it is<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:53] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        <heyongli> and another topic/TODO is Nova
                        community want see some code for this design for
                        further evaluation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:53] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        <heyongli> i'm work on it, so we can make
                        some progress<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:53] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>>
                        heyongli: it's <pci-flavor:no><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:53] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> sorry
                        <pci-flavor:<span class="hyperlink-channel">#of</span> devices><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:54] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><</span><span
                        class="xc4"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">heyongli</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">>
                        baoli:  i'm lost , what do you mean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:54] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>>
                        heyongli: er, since we're working on two
                        documents I don't even know which document
                        review you're talking about.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:54] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>> in
                        the nova flavor, you can do pci-flavor (or
                        pci_group): 2 in the extra_specs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:55] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        ijw: i paste the link there long time ago<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:55] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        for review, only bp is valid... am i right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:55] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> I think
                        it's fairly reasonable to say that at this point
                        'pci flavor', 'alias' and 'group' are all
                        synonyms.  Whichever we use we're talking about
                        a PCI device type we want to allocate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:55] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:56] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>>
                        heyongli: no, not really - this isn't a formal
                        process, we're trying to reach agreement here;.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:56] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        ijw: yep, the current in tree, use synonyms:
                        whitelist, alias<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:57] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:57] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> What we
                        agree we want: to be able to nominate devices by
                        a fairly flexible method on a host (down to
                        host/path and as widely as vendor/device) to a
                        specific group; to schedule a machine with a
                        combination of device allocations from various
                        groups.  Right so far?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:57] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> I think
                        that's the core of where we agree.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:58] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:58] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        ijw: right i think, i agree this, and part of
                        this is in tree except group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:58] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> Beyond
                        that, there are two different proposals, one
                        with an API and one which is config driven.  How
                        do we choose between them?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:58] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        ijw: for me this is a trade off.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:59] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> For me,
                        it's not - I see the API as lots more complex
                        and also harder to use<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-5.25pt"><span
                        class="timestamp"><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[09:59] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        config many many machine had scale problem<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> But if
                        you're configuring many machines, then there's
                        no problem, because you have a deployment system
                        that will configure them identically.  I do 10
                        node clusters automatically, I'm sure if I have
                        500 there's going to be no logging into them and
                        accidentally typoing the config<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">baoli</span>>
                        heyongli: it's not really a scale problem in
                        terms of provisioning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> So
                        that's a non-problem and I think we should
                        remove that from the discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> (Note
                        this is different from host aggregates - I might
                        aggregate hosts by physical location of by power
                        strip, things I absolutely can't determine
                        automatically, so there's no parallel there)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[10:03] </span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">mpanetta</span> [<a
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                          href="mailto:%7Empanetta@72.3.234.177">~mpanetta@72.3.234.177</a>]
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">heyongli</span>>
                        aggregate can be use on pci, but it not must to
                        be like this way, whitout aggregate it should
                        still work .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">kgriffs</span>> o/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">amitgandhi</span>>
                        0/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">kgriffs</span>>
                        amitgandhi: you're alive!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">flwang1</span>>
                        meeting time?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">flaper87</span>> yo
                        yo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">amitgandhi</span>>
                        yup made it back in one piece<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">flwang1</span>> o/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:red">==</span></span><span
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[10:07] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">kgriffs</span>>
                        will Malini be here today for the mtg?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">[10:08] </span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> OK,
                        we're out of time, I think we have to take this
                        to the list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          class="hyperlink-whois">ametts</span>>
                        kgriffs: I see her in <span
                          class="hyperlink-channel">#cloudqueues</span>.  Just
                        pinged her.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black"><<span
                          class="hyperlink-whois">ijw</span>> To
                        which end I've just mailed out what I was
                        saying.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        ">On 12/17/13 10:09 AM, "Ian Wells" <<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ijw.ubuntu@cack.org.uk">ijw.ubuntu@cack.org.uk</a>>
                        wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Reiterating
                                  from the IRC mneeting, largely, so
                                  apologies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Firstly,
                                  I disagree that
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PCI_passthrough_SRIOV_support">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PCI_passthrough_SRIOV_support</a>
                                  is an accurate reflection of the
                                  current state.  It's a very unilateral
                                  view, largely because the rest of us
                                  had been focussing on the google
                                  document that we've been using for
                                  weeks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><br>
                                  Secondly, I totally disagree with this
                                  approach.  This assumes that
                                  description of the (cloud-internal,
                                  hardware) details of each compute node
                                  is best done with data stored
                                  centrally and driven by an API.  I
                                  don't agree with either of these
                                  points.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                                style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Firstly,
                                the best place to describe what's
                                available on a compute node is in the
                                configuration on the compute node.  For
                                instance, I describe which interfaces do
                                what in Neutron on the compute node. 
                                This is because when you're provisioning
                                nodes, that's the moment you know how
                                you've attached it to the network and
                                what hardware you've put in it and what
                                you intend the hardware to be for - or
                                conversely your deployment puppet or
                                chef or whatever knows it, and Razor or
                                MAAS has enumerated it, but the
                                activities are equivalent.  Storing it
                                centrally distances the compute node
                                from its descriptive information for no
                                good purpose that I can see and adds the
                                complexity of having to go make remote
                                requests just to start up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                          </div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                              10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                              color: black; ">Secondly, even if you did
                              store this centrally, it's not clear to me
                              that an API is very useful.  As far as I
                              can see, the need for an API is really the
                              need to manage PCI device flavors.  If you
                              want that to be API-managed, then the rest
                              of a (rather complex) API cascades from
                              that one choice.  Most of the things that
                              API lets you change (expressions
                              describing PCI devices) are the sort of
                              thing that you set once and only revisit
                              when you start - for instance - deploying
                              new hosts in a different way.<br>
                              <br>
                              I at the parallel in Neutron provider
                              networks.  They're config driven, largely
                              on the compute hosts.  Agents know what
                              ports on their machine (the hardware tie)
                              are associated with provider networks, by
                              provider network name.  The controller
                              takes 'neutron net-create ...
                              --provider:network 'name'' and uses that
                              to tie a virtual network to the provider
                              network definition on each host.  What we
                              absolutely don't do is have a complex
                              admin API that lets us say 'in host
                              aggregate 4, provider network x (which I
                              made earlier) is connected to eth6'.<br>
                              <br>
                              -- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                            10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                            color: black; ">Ian.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                            style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                            Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                              10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                              color: black; ">On 17 December 2013 03:12,
                              yongli he <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:yongli.he@intel.com"
                                target="_blank">yongli.he@intel.com</a>>
                              wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">On
                                  2013</span><span
                                  style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
                                  lang="ZH-TW">年</span><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">12</span><span
                                  style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
                                  lang="ZH-TW">月</span><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">16</span><span
                                  style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"
                                  lang="ZH-TW">日</span><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">
                                  22:27, Robert Li (baoli) wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: black; ">Hi Yongli,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
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                                    color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: black; ">The IRC meeting we
                                    have for PCI-Passthrough is the
                                    forum for discussion on SR-IOV
                                    support in openstack. I think the
                                    goal is to come up with a plan on
                                    both the nova and neutron side in
                                    support of the SR-IOV, and the
                                    current focus is on the nova side.
                                    Since you've done a lot of work on
                                    it already, would you like to lead
                                    tomorrow's discussion at UTC 1400?
                                    <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            </blockquote>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
                                10.5pt; font-family: Calibri,
                                sans-serif; color: black; "><br>
                                Robert , you lead the meeting very well
                                i enjoy you setup every for us, keep
                                going on it -:)<br>
                                <br>
                                I'd like to give you guy a summary of
                                current state, let's discuss it then.  <br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PCI_passthrough_SRIOV_support"
                                  target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PCI_passthrough_SRIOV_support</a><br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                1)  fade out alias ( i think this ok for
                                all)<br>
                                2)  white list became pic-flavor ( i
                                think this ok for all)<br>
                                3)  address simply regular expression
                                support: only * and a number range is
                                support [hex-hex]. ( i think this ok?)<br>
                                4)  aggregate : now it's clear enough,
                                and won't impact SRIOV.  ( i think this
                                irrelevant to SRIOV now)<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                5)  SRIOV use case, if you suggest a use
                                case, please given a full example like
                                this: [discuss: compare to other
                                solution]<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:
                                10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS',
                                sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); ">create
                                a pci flavor for the SRIOV
                                <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            <pre style="margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:15.0pt;background:whitesmoke;word-break:break-all;border-top-left-radius:4px;border-top-right-radius:4px;border-bottom-right-radius:4px;border-bottom-left-radius:4px;word-wrap:break-word;white-space:pre-wrap;border:rgba(0,0,0,0.14902);text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#333333">  nova pci-flavor-create  name 'vlan-SRIOV'  description "xxxxx"<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                            <pre style="margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:15.0pt;background:whitesmoke;word-break:break-all"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#333333">  nova pci-flavor-update UUID  set    'description'='xxxx'   'address'= '0000:01:*.7'<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                            <h5
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                            <h5
style="mso-margin-top-alt:7.5pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span
                                style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                'Arial Unicode MS', sans-serif; color:
                                rgb(51, 51, 51); ">Admin config SRIOV<o:p></o:p></span></h5>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                    style="font-style: normal;
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                                    normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height:
                                    normal; font-family: 'Times New
                                    Roman'; ">        
                                  </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
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                                10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS',
                                sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); ">create
                                pci-flavor :
                                <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            <pre style="margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:15.0pt;background:whitesmoke;word-break:break-all;border-top-left-radius:4px;border-top-right-radius:4px;border-bottom-right-radius:4px;border-bottom-left-radius:4px;word-wrap:break-word;white-space:pre-wrap;border:rgba(0,0,0,0.14902);text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#333333">   {"name": "privateNIC", "neutron-network-uuid": "uuid-1", ...}<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                            <pre style="margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:15.0pt;background:whitesmoke;word-break:break-all"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#333333">   {"name": "publicNIC", "neutron-network-uuid": "uuid-2", ...}<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
                            <pre style="margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:15.0pt;background:whitesmoke;word-break:break-all"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#333333">   {"name": "smallGPU", "neutron-network-uuid": "", ...}<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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                                10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS',
                                sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); ">set
                                aggregate meta according the flavors
                                existed in the hosts
                                <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            <p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:15.0pt;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span
                                style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                'Arial Unicode MS', sans-serif; color:
                                rgb(51, 51, 51); ">flavor extra-specs,
                                for a VM that gets two small GPUs and
                                VIFs attached from the above SRIOV NICs:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            <pre style="margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:15.0pt;background:whitesmoke;word-break:break-all;border-top-left-radius:4px;border-top-right-radius:4px;border-bottom-right-radius:4px;border-bottom-left-radius:4px;word-wrap:break-word;white-space:pre-wrap;border:rgba(0,0,0,0.14902);text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#333333">   nova aggregate-set-metadata pci-aware-group set 'pci-flavor'='smallGPU,oldGPU, privateNIC,privateNIC'<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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                                10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS',
                                sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); ">create
                                instance flavor for sriov
                                <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            <pre style="margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:15.0pt;background:whitesmoke;word-break:break-all;border-top-left-radius:4px;border-top-right-radius:4px;border-bottom-right-radius:4px;border-bottom-left-radius:4px;word-wrap:break-word;white-space:pre-wrap;border:rgba(0,0,0,0.14902);text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#333333">    nova flavor-key 100 set  'pci-flavor='1:privateNIC;  1: publicNIC;  2:smallGPU,oldGPU'<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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                                10.5pt; font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS',
                                sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); ">User
                                just specifies a quantum port as normal:
                                <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            <pre style="margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:15.0pt;background:whitesmoke;word-break:break-all;border-top-left-radius:4px;border-top-right-radius:4px;border-bottom-right-radius:4px;border-bottom-left-radius:4px;word-wrap:break-word;white-space:pre-wrap;border:rgba(0,0,0,0.14902);text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#333333">   nova boot --flavor "sriov-plus-two-gpu" --image img --nic net-id=uuid-2 --nic net-id=uuid-1 vm-name<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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                                <br>
                                Yongli <br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            <div>
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                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Robert<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
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                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size: 10.5pt;
                                    font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;
                                    color: black; ">On 12/11/13 8:09 PM,
                                    "He, Yongli" <<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:yongli.he@intel.com"
                                      target="_blank">yongli.he@intel.com</a>>
                                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family:
                                  Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, all</span><span
                                        style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Please continue to foucs on the
                                        blueprint, it change after
                                        reviewing.  And  for this point:</span><span
                                        style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        >5. flavor style for sriov: i
                                        just list the flavor style in
                                        the design but for the style
                                        <br>
                                        >              --nic <br>
                                        >                  
                                        --pci-flavor  PowerfullNIC:1<br>
                                         >  still possible to work,
                                        so what's the real impact to
                                        sriov from the flavor design?</span><span
                                        style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">>As you can see from the log,
                                        Irena has some strong opinions
                                        on this, and I tend to agree
                                        with her. The problem we need to
                                        solve is this: we need a means
                                        to associate a nic (or port)
                                        with a PCI device that is
                                        allocated out of a PCI
                                        >flavor or a PCI group. We
                                        think that we presented a
                                        complete solution in our google
                                        doc.</span><span
                                        style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">It<span lang="ZH-TW">’</span>s not
                                        so clear, could you please list
                                        the key point here. Btw, the
                                        blue print I sent Monday had
                                        changed for this, please check.</span><span
                                        style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Yongli he</span><span
                                        style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                              style="font-size: 10pt;
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                                              sans-serif; color: black;
                                              ">From:</span></b><span
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                                            Robert Li (baoli) [<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:baoli@cisco.com"
                                              target="_blank">mailto:baoli@cisco.com</a>]
                                            <br>
                                            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday,
                                            December 11, 2013 10:18 PM<br>
                                            <b>To:</b> He, Yongli;
                                            Sandhya Dasu (sadasu);
                                            OpenStack Development
                                            Mailing List (not for usage
                                            questions); Jiang, Yunhong;
                                            Irena Berezovsky;
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com"
                                              target="_blank">prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com</a>;
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:chris.friesen@windriver.com"
                                              target="_blank">chris.friesen@windriver.com</a>;
                                            Itzik Brown;
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:john@johngarbutt.com"
                                              target="_blank">john@johngarbutt.com</a><br>
                                            <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                            [openstack-dev] [nova]
                                            [neutron] PCI pass-through
                                            network support</span><span
                                            style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                        style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hi Yongli,</span><span
                                          style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thank you very much for sharing the
                                          Wiki with us on Monday so that
                                          we have a better understanding
                                          on your ideas and thoughts.
                                          Please see embedded comments.</span><span
                                          style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">--Robert</span><span
                                          style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">On 12/10/13 8:35 PM, "yongli he"
                                            <<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:yongli.he@intel.com"
                                              target="_blank">yongli.he@intel.com</a>>
                                            wrote:</span><span
                                            style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">On 2013<span lang="ZH-TW">年</span>12<span
                                                  lang="ZH-TW">月</span>10<span
                                                  lang="ZH-TW">日</span>
                                                22:41, Sandhya Dasu
                                                (sadasu) wrote:</span><span
                                                style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hi,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">   I am trying to resurrect this
                                                  email thread since
                                                  discussions have split
                                                  between several
                                                  threads and is
                                                  becoming hard to keep
                                                  track.</span><span
                                                  style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">An update:</span><span
                                                  style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">New PCI Passthrough meeting time:
                                                  Tuesdays UTC 1400.</span><span
                                                  style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">New PCI flavor proposal from Nova:</span><span
                                                  style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PCI_configration_Database_and_API#Take_advantage_of_host_aggregate_.28T.B.D.29"
                                                    target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PCI_configration_Database_and_API#Take_advantage_of_host_aggregate_.28T.B.D.29</a></span><span
                                                  style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hi, all<br>
                                                sorry for miss the
                                              meeting, i was seeking
                                              John at that time. from
                                              the log i saw some concern
                                              about new design,  i list
                                              them there and try to
                                              clarify it per my opinion:<br>
                                              <br>
                                              1. configuration going to
                                              deprecated:   this might
                                              impact SRIOV.  if
                                              possible, please list what
                                              kind of impact make to
                                              you.
                                            </span><span
                                              style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Regarding the nova API
                                          pci-flavor-update, we had a
                                          face-to-face discussion over
                                          use of a nova API to
                                          provision/define/configure PCI
                                          passthrough list during the
                                          ice-house summit. I kind of
                                          like the idea initially. As
                                          you can see from the meeting
                                          log, however, I later thought
                                          that in a distributed system,
                                          using a centralized API to
                                          define resources per compute
                                          node, which could come and go
                                          any time, doesn't seem to
                                          provide any significant
                                          benefit. This is the reason
                                          that I didn't mention it in
                                          our google doc
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EMwDg9J8zOxzvTnQJ9HwZdiotaVstFWKIuKrPse6JOs/edit"
                                            target="_blank">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EMwDg9J8zOxzvTnQJ9HwZdiotaVstFWKIuKrPse6JOs/edit#</a></span><span
                                          style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">If you agree that pci-flavor and
                                          pci-group is kind of the same
                                          thing, then we agree with you
                                          that the pci-flavor-create API
                                          is needed. Since pci-flavor or
                                          pci-group is global, then such
                                          an API can be used for
                                          resource
                                          registration/validation on
                                          nova server. In addition, it
                                          can be used to facilitate the
                                          display of PCI devices per
                                          node, per group, or in the
                                          entire cloud, etc.</span><span
                                          style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    </div>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><br>
                                              <br>
                                              2. <baoli>So the API
                                              seems to be combining the
                                              whitelist + pci-group<br>
                                                  yeah, it's actually
                                              almost same thing,
                                              'flavor' 'pci-group' or
                                              'group'. the real
                                              different is this flavor
                                              going to deprecated the
                                              alias, and combine tight
                                              to aggregate or flavor.
                                            </span><span
                                              style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Well, with pci-group, we
                                          recommended to deprecate the
                                          PCI alias because we think it
                                          is redundant. </span><span
                                          style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">We think that specification of PCI
                                          requirement in the flavor's
                                          extra spec is still needed as
                                          it's a generic means to
                                          allocate PCI devices. In
                                          addition, it can be used as
                                          properties in the host
                                          aggregate as well. </span><span
                                          style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><br>
                                              <br>
                                              3. feature: <br>
                                                 this design is not to
                                              say the feature is not
                                              work, but changed.  if
                                              auto discovery feature is
                                              possible, we got 'feature'
                                              form the device, then use
                                              the feature to define the
                                              pci-flavor.  it's also
                                              possible create default
                                              pci-flavor for this. so
                                              the feature concept will
                                              be impact, my feeling, we
                                              should given a separated
                                              bp for feature, and not in
                                              this round change, so here
                                              we only thing is keep the
                                              feature is possible.
                                            </span><span
                                              style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">I think that it's ok to have
                                          separate BPs. But we think
                                          that auto discovery is an
                                          essential part of the design,
                                          and therefore it should be
                                          implemented with more helping
                                          hands. </span><span
                                          style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    </div>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><br>
                                              <br>
                                              4. address regular
                                              expression: i'm fine with
                                              the wild-match style.</span><span
                                              style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Sounds good. One side node is that
                                          I noticed that the driver for
                                          intel 82576 cards has a
                                          strange slot assignment
                                          scheme. So the final
                                          definition of it may need to
                                          accommodate that as well.</span><span
                                          style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote
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                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><br>
                                              <br>
                                              5. flavor style for sriov:
                                              i just list the flavor
                                              style in the design but
                                              for the style
                                              <br>
                                                            --nic <br>
                                                                
                                              --pci-flavor 
                                              PowerfullNIC:1<br>
                                                 still possible to work,
                                              so what's the real impact
                                              to sriov from the flavor
                                              design?</span><span
                                              style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">As you can see from the log, Irena
                                          has some strong opinions on
                                          this, and I tend to agree with
                                          her. The problem we need to
                                          solve is this: we need a means
                                          to associate a nic (or port)
                                          with a PCI device that is
                                          allocated out of a PCI flavor
                                          or a PCI group. We think that
                                          we presented a complete
                                          solution in our google doc.</span><span
                                          style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">At this point, I really believe
                                          that we should combine our
                                          efforts and ideas. As far as
                                          how many BPs are needed, it
                                          should be a trivial matter
                                          after we have agreed on a
                                          complete solution.</span><span
                                          style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                    </div>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><br>
                                              <br>
                                              Yongli He<br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                            </span><span
                                              style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thanks,</span><span
                                                style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Sandhya</span><span
                                                style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                          </div>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                                  style="color:black">From:
                                                </span></b><span
                                                style="color:black">Sandhya
                                                Dasu <<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sadasu@cisco.com" target="_blank">sadasu@cisco.com</a>><br>
                                                <b>Reply-To: </b>"OpenStack
                                                Development Mailing List
                                                (not for usage
                                                questions)" <<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
                                                <b>Date: </b>Thursday,
                                                November 7, 2013 9:44 PM<br>
                                                <b>To: </b>"OpenStack
                                                Development Mailing List
                                                (not for usage
                                                questions)" <<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>>,
                                                "Jiang, Yunhong" <<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yunhong.jiang@intel.com" target="_blank">yunhong.jiang@intel.com</a>>,

                                                "Robert Li (baoli)" <<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:baoli@cisco.com" target="_blank">baoli@cisco.com</a>>,
                                                Irena Berezovsky <<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:irenab@mellanox.com" target="_blank">irenab@mellanox.com</a>>,
                                                "<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com" target="_blank">prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com</a>"
                                                <<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com" target="_blank">prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com</a>>,
                                                "<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chris.friesen@windriver.com" target="_blank">chris.friesen@windriver.com</a>"
                                                <<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chris.friesen@windriver.com" target="_blank">chris.friesen@windriver.com</a>>,

                                                "He, Yongli" <<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yongli.he@intel.com" target="_blank">yongli.he@intel.com</a>>,
                                                Itzik Brown <<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ItzikB@mellanox.com" target="_blank">ItzikB@mellanox.com</a>><br>
                                                <b>Subject: </b>Re:
                                                [openstack-dev] [nova]
                                                [neutron] PCI
                                                pass-through network
                                                support<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hi,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">     The discussions during the
                                                    summit were very
                                                    productive. Now, we
                                                    are ready to setup
                                                    our IRC meeting.</span><span
                                                    style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Here are some slots that look like
                                                    they might work for
                                                    us.</span><span
                                                    style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">1. Wed 2
                                                    <span lang="ZH-TW">–</span>
                                                    3 pm UTC.</span><span
                                                    style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">2. Thursday 12
                                                    <span lang="ZH-TW">–</span>
                                                    1 pm UTC.</span><span
                                                    style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">3. Thursday 7
                                                    <span lang="ZH-TW">–</span>
                                                    8pm UTC.</span><span
                                                    style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Please vote.</span><span
                                                    style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thanks,</span><span
                                                    style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Sandhya</span><span
                                                    style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div
                                                style="border:none;border-top:solid
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="color:black">From:
                                                    </span></b><span
                                                    style="color:black">Sandhya
                                                    Dasu <<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sadasu@cisco.com" target="_blank">sadasu@cisco.com</a>><br>
                                                    <b>Reply-To: </b>"OpenStack
                                                    Development Mailing
                                                    List (not for usage
                                                    questions)" <<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
                                                    <b>Date: </b>Tuesday,
                                                    November 5, 2013
                                                    12:03 PM<br>
                                                    <b>To: </b>"OpenStack
                                                    Development Mailing
                                                    List (not for usage
                                                    questions)" <<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>>,
                                                    "Jiang, Yunhong"
                                                    <<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yunhong.jiang@intel.com" target="_blank">yunhong.jiang@intel.com</a>>,

                                                    "Robert Li (baoli)"
                                                    <<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:baoli@cisco.com" target="_blank">baoli@cisco.com</a>>,
                                                    Irena Berezovsky
                                                    <<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:irenab@mellanox.com" target="_blank">irenab@mellanox.com</a>>,
                                                    "<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com" target="_blank">prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com</a>"
                                                    <<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com" target="_blank">prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com</a>>,
                                                    "<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chris.friesen@windriver.com" target="_blank">chris.friesen@windriver.com</a>"
                                                    <<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chris.friesen@windriver.com" target="_blank">chris.friesen@windriver.com</a>>,

                                                    "He, Yongli" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:yongli.he@intel.com" target="_blank">yongli.he@intel.com</a>>,
                                                    Itzik Brown <<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ItzikB@mellanox.com" target="_blank">ItzikB@mellanox.com</a>><br>
                                                    <b>Subject: </b>Re:
                                                    [openstack-dev]
                                                    [nova] [neutron] PCI
                                                    pass-through network
                                                    support<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Just
                                                        to clarify, the
                                                        discussion is
                                                        planned for 10
                                                        AM Wednesday
                                                        morning at the
                                                        developer's
                                                        lounge.</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thanks,</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Sandhya</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div
                                                    style="border:none;border-top:solid
                                                    #B5C4DF
                                                    1.0pt;padding:3.0pt
                                                    0in 0in 0in">
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                                          style="color:black">From:
                                                        </span></b><span
style="color:black">Sandhya Dasu <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="mailto:sadasu@cisco.com"
target="_blank">sadasu@cisco.com</a>><br>
                                                        <b>Reply-To: </b>"OpenStack
                                                        Development
                                                        Mailing List
                                                        (not for usage
                                                        questions)" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org"
                                                          target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
                                                        <b>Date: </b>Tuesday,
                                                        November 5, 2013
                                                        11:38 AM<br>
                                                        <b>To: </b>"OpenStack
                                                        Development
                                                        Mailing List
                                                        (not for usage
                                                        questions)" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org"
                                                          target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>>,
                                                        "Jiang, Yunhong"
                                                        <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yunhong.jiang@intel.com" target="_blank">yunhong.jiang@intel.com</a>>,

                                                        "Robert Li
                                                        (baoli)" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:baoli@cisco.com" target="_blank">baoli@cisco.com</a>>,
                                                        Irena Berezovsky
                                                        <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:irenab@mellanox.com" target="_blank">irenab@mellanox.com</a>>,
                                                        "<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com" target="_blank">prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com</a>"
                                                        <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com" target="_blank">prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com</a>>,
                                                        "<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chris.friesen@windriver.com" target="_blank">chris.friesen@windriver.com</a>"
                                                        <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chris.friesen@windriver.com" target="_blank">chris.friesen@windriver.com</a>>,

                                                        "He, Yongli"
                                                        <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yongli.he@intel.com" target="_blank">yongli.he@intel.com</a>>,
                                                        Itzik Brown <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ItzikB@mellanox.com" target="_blank">ItzikB@mellanox.com</a>><br>
                                                        <b>Subject: </b>Re:
                                                        [openstack-dev]
                                                        [nova] [neutron]
                                                        PCI pass-through
                                                        network support<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                                          style="color:black">Hi,</span></b><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                                          style="color:black"> 
                                                            We are
                                                          planning to
                                                          have a
                                                          discussion at
                                                          the
                                                          developer's
                                                          lounge
                                                          tomorrow
                                                          morning at
                                                          10:00 am.
                                                          Please feel
                                                          free to drop
                                                          by if you are
                                                          interested.</span></b><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                                          style="color:black">Thanks,</span></b><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                                          style="color:black">Sandhya</span></b><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                                          style="color:black">From:
                                                          </span></b><span
style="color:black"><Jiang>, Yunhong <</span><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:yunhong.jiang@intel.com"
                                                          target="_blank"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">yunhong.jiang@intel.com</span></a></span><span
style="color:black">><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="border:none;border-top:solid
                                                          #B5C4DF
                                                          1.0pt;padding:3.0pt
                                                          0in 0in 0in">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                                          style="color:black">Date:
                                                          </span></b><span
style="color:black">Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:21 PM<br>
                                                          <b>To: </b>"Robert
                                                          Li (baoli)"
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:baoli@cisco.com" target="_blank">baoli@cisco.com</a>>,
                                                          Irena
                                                          Berezovsky
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:irenab@mellanox.com" target="_blank">irenab@mellanox.com</a>>,
                                                          "<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com" target="_blank">prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com</a>"
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com" target="_blank">prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com</a>>,
                                                          "<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chris.friesen@windriver.com" target="_blank">chris.friesen@windriver.com</a>"
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chris.friesen@windriver.com" target="_blank">chris.friesen@windriver.com</a>>,

                                                          "He, Yongli"
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yongli.he@intel.com" target="_blank">yongli.he@intel.com</a>>,
                                                          Itzik Brown
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ItzikB@mellanox.com" target="_blank">ItzikB@mellanox.com</a>><br>
                                                          <b>Cc: </b>OpenStack
                                                          Development
                                                          Mailing List
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>>,
                                                          "Brian Bowen
                                                          (brbowen)"
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:brbowen@cisco.com" target="_blank">brbowen@cisco.com</a>>,
                                                          "Kyle Mestery
                                                          (kmestery)"
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kmestery@cisco.com" target="_blank">kmestery@cisco.com</a>>,
                                                          Sandhya Dasu
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sadasu@cisco.com" target="_blank">sadasu@cisco.com</a>><br>
                                                          <b>Subject: </b>RE:
                                                          [openstack-dev]
                                                          [nova]
                                                          [neutron] PCI
                                                          pass-through
                                                          network
                                                          support<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Robert,
                                                          I think your
                                                          change request
                                                          for pci alias
                                                          should be
                                                          covered by the
                                                          extra infor
                                                          enhancement.
                                                          </span><span
                                                          style="color:black"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/pci-extra-info"
target="_blank">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/pci-extra-info</a>
                                                           and Yongli is
                                                          working on it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="color:black">I<span
                                                          lang="ZH-TW">’</span>m
                                                          not sure how
                                                          the port
                                                          profile is
                                                          passed to the
                                                          connected
                                                          switch, is it
                                                          a Cisco VMEFX
                                                          specific
                                                          method or
                                                          libvirt
                                                          method? Sorry
                                                          I<span
                                                          lang="ZH-TW">’</span>m
                                                          not well on
                                                          network side.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="color:black">--jyh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="border:none;border-left:solid
                                                          blue
                                                          1.5pt;padding:0in
                                                          0in 0in 4.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="border:none;border-top:solid
                                                          #B5C4DF
                                                          1.0pt;padding:3.0pt
                                                          0in 0in 0in">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10pt;
                                                          font-family:
                                                          Tahoma,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: black;
                                                          ">From:</span></b><span
                                                          style="font-size:
                                                          10pt;
                                                          font-family:
                                                          Tahoma,
                                                          sans-serif;
                                                          color: black;
                                                          "> Robert Li
                                                          (baoli) [<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:baoli@cisco.com" target="_blank">mailto:baoli@cisco.com</a>]
                                                          <br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b>
                                                          Wednesday,
                                                          October 30,
                                                          2013 10:13 AM<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b>
                                                          Irena
                                                          Berezovsky;
                                                          Jiang,
                                                          Yunhong; <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com" target="_blank">
prashant.upadhyaya@aricent.com</a>; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="mailto:chris.friesen@windriver.com"
target="_blank">
chris.friesen@windriver.com</a>; He, Yongli; Itzik Brown<br>
                                                          <b>Cc:</b>
                                                          OpenStack
                                                          Development
                                                          Mailing List;
                                                          Brian Bowen
                                                          (brbowen);
                                                          Kyle Mestery
                                                          (kmestery);
                                                          Sandhya Dasu
                                                          (sadasu)<br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b>
                                                          Re:
                                                          [openstack-dev]
                                                          [nova]
                                                          [neutron] PCI
                                                          pass-through
                                                          network
                                                          support</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hi,</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Regarding
                                                          physical
                                                          network
                                                          mapping,  This
                                                          is what I
                                                          thought. </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">consider
                                                          the following
                                                          scenarios:</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> 
                                                           1. a compute
                                                          node with
                                                          SRIOV only
                                                          interfaces
                                                          attached to a
                                                          physical
                                                          network. the
                                                          node is
                                                          connected to
                                                          one upstream
                                                          switch </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> 
                                                           2. a compute
                                                          node with both
                                                          SRIOV
                                                          interfaces and
                                                          non-SRIOV
                                                          interfaces
                                                          attached to a
                                                          physical
                                                          network. the
                                                          node is
                                                          connected to
                                                          one upstream
                                                          switch</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> 
                                                           3. in
                                                          addition to
                                                          case 1 &2,
                                                          a compute node
                                                          may have
                                                          multiple vNICs
                                                          that are
                                                          connected to
                                                          different
                                                          upstream
                                                          switches. </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">CASE
                                                          1:</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"> --
                                                  &nb