<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>Hi,</div><div>I agree with Matt here. This is not broad enough. One option is to have a tempest class that overrides for various backend plugins. Then the test can be haredednd for each driver. I am not sure if that is something that has been talked about.</div><div>Thanks</div><div>Gary</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Matt Riedemann <<a href="mailto:mriedem@us.ibm.com">mriedem@us.ibm.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> OpenStack Development Mailing List <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:13 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> OpenStack Development Mailing List <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Looking for clarification on the diagnostics API<br></div><div><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><font size="2" face="sans-serif">There is also a tempest patch now to ease some of the libvirt-specific keys checked in the new diagnostics tests there:</font><br><br><a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51412/"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51412/</u></font></a><font size="3"></font><br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">To relay some of my concerns that I put in that patch:</font><br><br><font size="2" face="Arial"><i>I'm not sure how I feel about this. It should probably be more generic but I think we need more than just a change in tempest to enforce it, i.e. we should have a nova patch that changes the doc strings for the abstract compute
driver method to specify what the minimum keys are for the info returned, maybe a doc api sample change, etc?</i></font><br><br><font size="2" face="Arial"><i>For reference, here is the mailing list post I started on this last week:</i></font><br><br><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-October/016385.html"><font size="2" color="#0000a1" face="Arial"><i>http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-October/016385.html</i></font></a><br><br><font size="2" face="Arial"><i>There are also docs here (these examples use xen and libvirt):</i></font><br><br><a href="http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-openstack-compute-basics.html"><font size="2" color="#0000a1" face="Arial"><i>http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-openstack-compute-basics.html</i></font></a><br><br><font size="2" face="Arial"><i>And under procedure 4.4 here:</i></font> <br><br><a href="http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/ch_introduction-to-openstack-compute.html#section_manage-the-cloud"><font size="2" color="#0000a1" face="Arial"><i>http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/ch_introduction-to-openstack-compute.html#section_manage-the-cloud</i></font></a><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br></font><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">=============</font> <br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">I also found this wiki page related to metering and the nova diagnostics API:</font><br><br><a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/EfficientMetering/FutureNovaInteractionModel"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/EfficientMetering/FutureNovaInteractionModel</u></font></a><font size="3"></font><br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">So it seems like if at some point this will be used with ceilometer it should be standardized a bit which is what the Tempest part starts but I don't want it to get lost there.</font><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br></font><br><font size="1" face="Arial">Thanks,</font> <br><br><font size="3" color="#8f8f8f" face="Arial"><b>MATT RIEDEMANN</b></font><font size="1" face="Arial"><br>
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</font><br><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Date: </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">10/12/2013 01:42 PM</font><br><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Subject: </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Looking for clarification on the diagnostics API</font><br><hr noshade=""><br><br><br><font size="1" face="Calibri">Yup, it seems to be hypervisor specific. I have added in the Vmware support following you correcting in the Vmware driver.</font><br><font size="1" face="Calibri">Thanks</font> <br><font size="1" face="Calibri">Gary </font><br><br><font size="2" face="Calibri"><b>From: </b>Matt Riedemann <</font><a href="mailto:mriedem@us.ibm.com"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Calibri"><u>mriedem@us.ibm.com</u></font></a><font size="2" face="Calibri">><b><br>
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Date: </b>Thursday, October 10, 2013 10:17 PM<b><br>
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Subject: </b>Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Looking for clarification on the diagnostics API</font><br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Looks like this has been brought up a couple of times:</font><font size="1" face="Calibri"><br></font><font size="1" color="blue" face="Calibri"><u><br></u></font><a href="https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg09138.html"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Calibri"><u>https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg09138.html</u></font></a><font size="1" face="Calibri"><br></font><font size="1" color="blue" face="Calibri"><u><br></u></font><a href="https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg08555.html"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Calibri"><u>https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg08555.html</u></font></a><font size="1" face="Calibri"><br></font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
But they seem to kind of end up in the same place I already am - it seems to be an open-ended API that is hypervisor-specific.</font><font size="1" face="Calibri"><br></font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br></font><font size="1" face="Calibri"><br></font><font size="1" face="Arial"><br>
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From: </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Matt Riedemann/Rochester/IBM</font><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif"><br>
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Date: </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">10/10/2013 02:12 PM</font><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif"><br>
Subject: </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">[nova] Looking for clarification on the diagnostics API</font><font size="1" face="Calibri"><br></font><hr noshade=""><font size="1" face="Calibri"><br></font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
Tempest recently got some new tests for the nova diagnostics API [1] which failed when I was running against the powervm driver since it doesn't implement that API. I started looking at other drivers that did and found that libvirt, vmware and xenapi at least
had code for the get_diagnostics method. I found that the vmware driver was re-using it's get_info method for get_diagnostics which led to bug 1237622 [2] but overall caused some confusion about the difference between the compute driver's get_info and get_diagnostics
mehods. It looks like get_info is mainly just used to get the power_state of the instance.</font><font size="1" face="Calibri"><br></font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
First, the get_info method has a nice docstring for what it needs returned [3] but the get_diagnostics method doesn't [4]. From looking at the API docs [5], the diagnostics API basically gives an example of values to get back which is completely based on what
the libvirt driver returns. Looking at the xenapi driver code, it looks like it does things a bit differently than the libvirt driver (maybe doesn't return the exact same keys, but it returns information based on what Xen provides).</font><font size="1" face="Calibri"><br></font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
I'm thinking about implementing the diagnostics API for the powervm driver but I'd like to try and get some help on defining just what should be returned from that call. There are some IVM commands available to the powervm driver for getting hardware resource
information about an LPAR so I think I could implement this pretty easily.</font><font size="1" face="Calibri"><br></font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
I think it basically comes down to providing information about the processor, memory, storage and network interfaces for the instance but if anyone has more background information on that API I'd like to hear it.</font><font size="1" face="Calibri"><br></font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
[1] </font><a href="https://github.com/openstack/tempest/commit/da0708587432e47f85241201968e6402190f0c5d"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Calibri"><u>https://github.com/openstack/tempest/commit/da0708587432e47f85241201968e6402190f0c5d</u></font></a><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
[2] </font><a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1237622"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Calibri"><u>https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1237622</u></font></a><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
[3] </font><a href="https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/2013.2.rc1/nova/virt/driver.py#L144"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Calibri"><u>https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/2013.2.rc1/nova/virt/driver.py#L144</u></font></a><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
[4] </font><a href="https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/2013.2.rc1/nova/virt/driver.py#L299"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Calibri"><u>https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/2013.2.rc1/nova/virt/driver.py#L299</u></font></a><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br>
[5] </font><a href="http://paste.openstack.org/show/48236/"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Calibri"><u>http://paste.openstack.org/show/48236/</u></font></a><font size="1" face="Calibri"><br></font><font size="2" face="sans-serif"><br></font><font size="1" face="Calibri"><br></font><font size="1" face="Arial"><br>
Thanks,</font><font size="1" face="Calibri"> <br></font><font size="3" color="#8f8f8f" face="Arial"><b><br>
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