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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/08/2013 01:20 PM, Miller, Mark M
      (EB SW Cloud - R&D - Corvallis) wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Adam,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
            want to thank for your responses as I am coming up to speed.
            If I don’t get yanked off to fill some other project holes,
            Keystone knowledge and support will become my full time job
            here at HP.</span></p>
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    </blockquote>
    <br>
    My pleasure.  The more you know, the more you can field these
    questions for me.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:D6182642CE6D2D4FBFCDF99946E249883B3610CB@G9W0343.americas.hpqcorp.net"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                Adam Young [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com">mailto:ayoung@redhat.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 07, 2013 6:55 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] Keystone Split
                Backend LDAP Hang Problem<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">On 08/07/2013 08:05 PM, Miller, Mark M
            (EB SW Cloud - R&D - Corvallis) wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
              have been thinking about the keystone user lookup GET API
              for a split LDAP/SQL backend when you are using a read
              only LDAP backend:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">               
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://15.253.58.165:35357/v3/auth/tokens">http://15.253.58.165:35357/v3/auth/tokens</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">A
              suggestion has been made to add additional lookup
              constraints via a filter. The problem with read only LDAP
              databases is that you are not able to tag the keystone
              users with any flags to indicate that they are keystone
              users. The current Keystone H-2  LDAP backend code
              performs the _ldap_get_all function (which took 1 &frac12; hours
              today) and must then look to see which of those users are
              in the keystone database because the REST API call only
              returned the one user that I had assigned a project role
              to. I am thinking that this logic is backwards. Instead of
              starting with the LDAP server, start by querying the
              keystone SQL database for LDAP users and then query the
              LDAP system for those users a certain number at a time
              (good use of pagination). By the way, I am assuming that
              keystone finds the LDAP users by looking in the
              user_project_metadata, user_group_membership_
              anduser_domain_metadata tables for user IDs that are not
              in the user table.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
          We should probably just drop the list_user functionality from
          Keystone, as it probably doens't belong there.  listing users
          in a project it probably fine, but all users in the system
          only makes sense for really trivial systems.<br>
          <br>
          Most LDAP servers limit the number of records returned.  I
          know in FreeIPA, we had 200 records, and then you needed a
          filter to find what you wanted beyond that.  Pagination is a
          bettersolution, although I shudder to think of the impact of
          all those live cursors on a heavily loaded Enterprise
          directory.<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
            Dolph Mathews [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:dolph.mathews@gmail.com">mailto:dolph.mathews@gmail.com</a>]
            <br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:40 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> Taylor, Monty<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] Keystone Split Backend
            LDAP Hang Problem</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">That's been a "don't do that" for quite a
            while, but we might finally have a solution in havana:<o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/pagination-backend-support">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/pagination-backend-support</a><o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Miller,
              Mark M (EB SW Cloud - R&D - Corvallis) <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:mark.m.miller@hp.com" target="_blank">mark.m.miller@hp.com</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
                    ran into an issue/problem with keystone and it is ok
                    to simply tell me to “don’t do that”, but I am
                    wondering how others approach this problem. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
                    have the keystone H-2 split backend code connected
                    the HP Enterprise Directory which is humongous in
                    size. From that directory I have only one user
                    configured with a project role in keystone. When I
                    performed the following REST API call:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">GET:  
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://15.253.58.141:35357/v3/users"
                      target="_blank">http://15.253.58.141:35357/v3/users</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
                    keystone server took almost an hour and a half to
                    process my request before responding with the
                    correct information:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">2013-07-28
                    08:54:24    DEBUG [keystone.common.ldap.core] LDAP
                    bind: dn=cn=CloudOSKeystoneDev, ou=Applications, o=<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://hp.com"
                      target="_blank">hp.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">2013-07-28
                    08:54:25    DEBUG [keystone.common.ldap.core] In
                    get_connection 6 user: cn=CloudOSKeystoneDev,
                    ou=Applications, o=<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://hp.com" target="_blank">hp.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">2013-07-28
                    08:54:25    DEBUG [keystone.common.ldap.core] MY
                    query in _ldap_get_all filter: None, query:
                    (&(objectClass=hpPerson))</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">2013-07-28
                    <span style="background:yellow">08:54:25</span>   
                    DEBUG [keystone.common.ldap.core] LDAP search:
                    dn=ou=People,o=<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://hp.com" target="_blank">hp.com</a>,
                    scope=2, query=(&(objectClass=hpPerson)),
                    attrs=['None', 'userPassword', 'hpStatus', 'mail',
                    'cn']</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">2013-07-28
                    <span style="background:yellow">10:20:10</span>    
                    INFO [access] 15.253.57.88 - - [28/Jul/2013:17:20:10
                    +0000] "GET
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://15.253.58.141:35357/v3/users"
                      target="_blank">http://15.253.58.141:35357/v3/users</a>
                    HTTP/1.0" 200 87832184</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">2013-07-28
                    10:20:25    DEBUG [eventlet.wsgi.server]
                    15.253.57.88 - - [28/Jul/2013 10:20:25] "GET
                    /v3/users HTTP/1.1" 200 87832342 5160.268039</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">REST
                    API response:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">{</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">   
                    "user": {</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">      
                     "name": "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:mark.m.miller@hp.com" target="_blank">mark.m.miller@hp.com</a>",</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">       
                    "links": {</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">           
                    "self": "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://localhost:5000/v3/users/mark.m.miller@hp.com"
                      target="_blank">http://localhost:5000/v3/users/mark.m.miller@hp.com</a>"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">       
                    },</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">       
                    "enabled": "Active",</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">       
                    "domain_id": "default",</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">       
                    "email": "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:mark_m_miller@hp.com" target="_blank">mark_m_miller@hp.com</a>",</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">       
                    "id": "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:mark.m.miller@hp.com" target="_blank">mark.m.miller@hp.com</a>"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">   
                    }</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">}</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">After
                    completing my request I found that Keystone was
                    locked up and required a stop/start service command
                    to get it responding again. How do other people with
                    ldap backends handle this problem?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
              _______________________________________________<br>
              OpenStack-dev mailing list<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org">OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev"
                target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a><o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
            <br clear="all">
            <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-Dolph <o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
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        <pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>OpenStack-dev mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org">OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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