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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/22/2013 09:49 PM, Miller, Mark M
      (EB SW Cloud - R&D - Corvallis) wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Adam,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sorry
            for the questions, but even though I have been programming
            for nearly 30 years I am new to Python and I find the code
            base somewhat difficult to follow. I have noticed that the
            file </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">keystone.identity.backends.ldap.Identity
            has a set of methods and file
            keystone.assignment.backends.sql.Assignment has a set of
            methods. My question is this: is there a way to specify
            which methods to use the ldap.Identity backend with and
            which methods to use the sql. Assignment backend with or
            does each backend only support all of the methods provided
            by each file? In working with an enterprise LDAP server,
            there is no way we will be able to create users or to write
            to it. If there is a way to pick and choose which methods
            access the LDAP server and which ones access the SQL
            keystone database, then I have what we need.</span></p>
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    <br>
    Here's the general gist:<br>
    <br>
    We split off the Assignment functions from Identity in order to be
    able to vary the two backends independently.    THe expectation is
    that people will use the LDAP backlend for Identity and the SQL
    backend for Assignments. LDAP will be read only, and Assignments
    will be read-write.  That being said, there are cases where people
    will have writable LDAP, or will use the SQL Identity backend, so
    there are functions which can change the state of the Identity
    backend, and those are not going to go away.<br>
    <br>
    The general code set up is as follows:<br>
    <br>
    Routers describe the mappings from URLs to Python Code.<br>
    Controllers ate stateless objects.  In theory they should be
    protocol agnostic, but in practice they are aware that they are
    being used with HTTP.<br>
    Managers and Drivers implement the Data layer.  The managers start
    as simple accessors, but over time they get more and more logic.  
    We don't have a clear place for Business logic.  Since the Backends
    are radically different, a lot of the logic has gotten duplicated
    between LDAP, SQL, Memcahced, and others.  We are working to
    minimize this.  The general approach is that code that should not be
    duplicated gets "pulled up" to the manager.  This kind of
    refactoring is constant and ongoing.<br>
    <br>
    When I split out the Assignment backend, I tried to to it in a way
    that did not modify the unit tests, so that other reviewers would
    have theassurance that the chagnes were just restructuring,  not
    fundamentally changing functionality.  Thus, we had a shim layer in
    the Identity Layer that called through to the assignment layer. 
    This has the added benefit of maintaining API compatibility for
    anyone who has customized code.  However, I've found a lot of our
    tests were talking to the driver, not talking through the manager,
    and thus I had to clean up a bunch of the tests to go through the
    manager as well. <br>
    <br>
    As an end user, you should specify that the Identity backend is LDAP
    and the Assignment backend is SQL.  Assuimg your LDAP backend is not
    writable, and call to the Identity layer that attempts to morph the
    state of the Directory store will fail.  However, what you should be
    doing is using the user groups from LDAP as a way to manage users,
    and place those groups into Role Assignments.  Roles, Role
    Assignments, and Projects all live in the Identity (SQL) backend,
    and all of those should be writeable regardless of LDAP state.  <br>
    <br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                Adam Young [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com">mailto:ayoung@redhat.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 22, 2013 4:52 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Miller, Mark M (EB SW Cloud - R&D -
                Corvallis)<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Dolph Mathews; OpenStack Development Mailing
                List<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [keystone] Split the Identity
                Backend blueprint<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 07/22/2013 07:43 PM, Miller, Mark M
            (EB SW Cloud - R&D - Corvallis) wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Adam,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You
              wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[identity]</span>
            <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> driver
              = keystone.identity.backends.ldap.Identity</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[assignment]</span>
            <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">driver
              = keystone.assignment.backends.sql.<span
                style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">Identity</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Did
              you mean to write:
            </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[assignment]</span>
            <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">driver
              = keystone.assignment.backends.sql.<span
                style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">Assignment</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Yes, that was a mistake on my part.  Sorry<br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                Adam Young [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com">mailto:ayoung@redhat.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 22, 2013 12:50 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Miller, Mark M (EB SW Cloud - R&D -
                Corvallis)<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Dolph Mathews; OpenStack Development Mailing
                List<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [keystone] Split the Identity
                Backend blueprint</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 07/22/2013 01:38 PM, Miller, Mark M
            (EB SW Cloud - R&D - Corvallis) wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
              have been reading source code in an attempt to figure out
              how to use the new split backend feature, specifically how
              to split the identity data between an ldap server and the
              standard Keystone sql database. However, I haven’t been
              able to figure it out quite yet. Does someone have some
              examples of this new feature in action? Is there another
              configuration file that is required?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">               
              [identity]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">               
              driver = driver = keystone.identity.backends.sql.Identity</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">               
              [assignment]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">               
              driver = ???</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">               
              [ldap]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">               
              Quite a few options</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mark
              Miller</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
          RIght now the only support split approach is LDAP for
          Identity, SQL for assignments.<br>
          <br>
          <span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[identity]</span>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> driver
            = keystone.identity.backends.ldap.Identity</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[assignment]</span>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">driver
            = keystone.assignment.backends.sql.Identity</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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