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<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">Anvil seems to fit in said program. </div>
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<div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">It's role is similar, helps build openstack as packages (rpms) for deployers/developers or for quick testing. Provides similar functionality as devstack.... </div>
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<div>Both are actively supported and both are tools for developers and deployers...</div>
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<div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Sent from my really tiny device...</span></div>
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On Jul 16, 2013, at 10:12 AM, "Thierry Carrez" <<a href="mailto:thierry@openstack.org">thierry@openstack.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>On 07/15/2013 11:39 AM, Dean Troyer wrote:</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Does it really make sense to be its own program? There was mention of</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>just making it a part of infra or QA. QA actually makes the most sense</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>to me, since devstack's primary use case is to make it easy to test</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>How about if the title of the program was 'Developer Tools'?</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Is devstack the only project which would fall into that bucket?</span><br>
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<span>The trick with programs is that it's not just about finding themes and</span><br>
<span>aggregate existing projects around them. At the heart of a program is an</span><br>
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<span>Putting devstack in a "Developer tools" bucket only makes sense if the</span><br>
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