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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">As lack of cloudpipe is one of the
      reasons to prevent existing nova network users from migrating to
      quantum, it makes sense to give SSL VPN a higher priority.<br>
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      Yi<br>
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      On 4/25/13 3:17 AM, Michael Shieh wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Nachi,
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        <div>I see these are 2 very different use cases:</div>
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        <div>[1] is the VPN to support remote access users to connect to
          the Openstack networks.  This would allow roaming users to
          connect with security policy defined by Openstack admin,
          without user intervene.</div>
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        <div>[2] IPsec is used for site-to-site connection, a must for
          Amazon VPC type deployment.  If Openstack networks are set up
          in the cloud for enterprise tenants, this would provide secure
          connectivities between Openstack networks and enterprise
          networks.  Security policies are agreed and configured by both
          sides.  (In Amazon VPC, it can generate security policy for
          some firewall vendors to import into the firewall of
          enterprise networks to reduce the configuration complexity).
           IPsec could be used for remote access as well (through Xauth
          or IKEv2) but it's not as simple as [1].  AFAIK, few companies
          deploy IPsec for remote access.</div>
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        <div style="">As [1] has been used in Nova while [2] is still
          new in Quantum, I vote for [1] so current users have a
          mechanism to connect to Openstack network to manage or share
          the resources.  Besides, IPsec alone may not be enough for VPC
          deployment, as most likely it needs dynamic routing support to
          detect the tunnel liveness.</div>
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        <div style="">Michael</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 4:53 PM,
              Nachi Ueno <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:nachi@ntti3.com" target="_blank">nachi@ntti3.com</a>></span>
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                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi
                folks<br>
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                I would like to ask your opinions.<br>
                [1] Nova parity VPN (Cloudpipe) is OpenStack Networking
                VPN first step.<br>
                Amazon VPC compatible api(*) is also great candidate to
                start.<br>
                And it is using IPSec.<br>
                The IPSec has more widely used than SSL-VPN in industry.<br>
                so, How about start with IPSec?<br>
                <br>
                Currently, Cloudpipe is using SSL-VPN, However,
                Cloudpipe was intended to<br>
                let users to access to the VLAN, so I tend to think any
                VPN method is<br>
                OK if we can<br>
                accomplish it.<br>
                <br>
                so if you want to start with SSL-VPN, please let us
                know.<br>
                In that case, we will start with SSL-VPN.<br>
                <br>
                (*) may be not fully same API, but similer model<br>
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                [2] Generic VPN Service model<br>
                It looks like there is no strong opinion to have "mode"
                attribute on<br>
                Generic VPN Service.<br>
                so we would like to remove this attribute.<br>
                <br>
                I registered the BP for Generic VPN service here.<br>
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href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/generic-vpn-service"
                  target="_blank">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/generic-vpn-service</a><br>
                <br>
                Is this OK for you guys?<br>
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                Thanks<br>
                Nachi<br>
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