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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Depends on the interpretation of “[…]that of the lack of a "super user admin role".” Could go either way. As I said, I don’t have any explicit problem with
 “trickle down” roles.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Dolph Mathews [mailto:dolph.mathews@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 22, 2013 11:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Inherited domain roles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hmm, I didn't understand the solution to be addressing the "cloud admin" problem, but rather to simply make it trivial for a user with an admin role at the domain level (which cascades to projects owned by that domain) to administer resources
 across openstack using a single role assignment in keystone. So, when a domain admin creates a project, they inherently have a role on that project and can immediately work with it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Dolph<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Gabriel Hurley <<a href="mailto:Gabriel.Hurley@nebula.com" target="_blank">Gabriel.Hurley@nebula.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The BP solves *a* problem in a valid way; I've even suggested that roles should "trickle down" when discussing ideas such as hierarchical projects/tenants in the past. However, it still doesn't solve the problem that at some point you need
 a single source of truth from which authority over keystone/cloud administration originates.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Any solution which involves a user gaining power on the cloud outside of the scope on which the role was assigned (e.g. a "cloud admin" being empowered by granting an admin role on a domain, or on a project like it is now) is fundamentally
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<p class="MsoNormal">+1; I think this is a step towards enabling us to eliminate that flaw.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The notion of scope is fundamentally broken by that. Roles should only ever apply within the scope they're granted.<br>
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So, +0 on the BP, but I don't see it fixing the larger problem.<br>
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All the best,<br>
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    - Gabriel<o:p></o:p></p>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Henry Nash [mailto:<a href="mailto:henryn@linux.vnet.ibm.com">henryn@linux.vnet.ibm.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:42 AM<br>
> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List<br>
> Cc: Gabriel Hurley<br>
> Subject: [keystone] Inherited domain roles<br>
><br>
> Hi<br>
><br>
> I have posted a havana blueprint for an extension to domain roles that would<br>
> solve one of the issues that has arisen by the move to RBAC in the keystone<br>
> v3 identity API - that of the lack of a "super user admin role".  This proposal<br>
> attempts to solve the actual issue within RBAC, rather than simply recreating<br>
> such a super admin.<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/inherited-domain-roles" target="_blank">
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/inherited-domain-roles</a><br>
><br>
> Comments welcome.<br>
><br>
> Henry<br>
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