<div dir="ltr">+1; I prefer option #3 as it implies that projects with more stakeholders may end up with more TC representation (e.g. nova) and contributors that work cross-project are more likely to be elected.<div><div class="gmail_extra">
<div><div><br></div>-Dolph</div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Mark McLoughlin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:markmc@redhat.com" target="_blank">markmc@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Tue, 2013-01-15 at 16:52 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote:<br>
...<br>
<div class="im">> We are considering adding more projects in the integrated release in the<br>
> future, but adding more PTLs with guaranteed TC seats doesn't really<br>
> scale, quickly leading to committee bloat (personally I think 13 is the<br>
> maximum workable number).<br>
</div>...<br>
<div class="im">> 3/ Limit the TC to 13 members, and have them all directly-elected (the<br>
> most significant PTLs will get elected anyway)<br>
<br>
</div>This would be my preference - because it's simple.<br>
<br>
13 seats gives ample opportunity for diverse parts of the development<br>
community to be represented.<br>
<br>
It also means that the committee can't assume all parts of the project<br>
are represented at its meetings and must reach out for broader input.<br>
<br>
IMHO, the TC is a group of people charged with building a rough<br>
consensus on cross-project topics. I'd much rather see the 13 seats open<br>
to those who are actively interested in this cross-project consensus<br>
building.<br>
<br>
No TC could consider itself as having reached a consensus if PTLs are<br>
objecting strongly to a proposal. Indeed, I think PTL come pretty close<br>
to having a veto when it comes to proposals which affect their projects.<br>
IMHO, that effective veto makes the "1 vote in 13" from a PTL's seat on<br>
the TC look like a pretty minor thing.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> 4/ Limit the TC to 13 members, have them all directly-elected, *and*<br>
> guarantee that a minimum of 8 PTLs end up in the committee<br>
</div>...<br>
<br>
This is the next best option but is a layer of bureaucracy and<br>
over-engineering I think we could live without.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Mark.<br>
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