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<div>Missed that one, </div>
<div>This sentence caused some of the confusion :</div>
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example, if a client issues an HTTP PUT request to add a member to a pool, there is no guarantee that the member can receive traffic when the HTTP call returns. However, it is guaranteed that a subsequent HTTP GET request to view the members on the pool returns
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Youcef Laribi <<a href="mailto:Youcef.Laribi@eu.citrix.com">Youcef.Laribi@eu.citrix.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>"<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Fri, 2 Nov 2012 16:28:08 +0000<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [openstack-dev] [Quantum][LBaaS] LBaaS API 1.0 spec draft<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">JC,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">If you look at the spec (</span><a href="http://wiki.openstack.org/Quantum/LBaaS/API_1.0#Update_a_Pool">http://wiki.openstack.org/Quantum/LBaaS/API_1.0#Update_a_Pool</a>)<span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">,
you will see that you cannot update the “members” attribute of the pool this way.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">This is what the spec says:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(83, 83, 83); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">The caller of this operation may update the following attributes of the Pool:<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(83, 83, 83); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">lb_method<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(83, 83, 83); font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">admin_state_up<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">As you can see, the “members” attribute is not part of these. The way you update the members of a pool is by removing or adding members.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Youcef<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> JC Martin [<a href="mailto:jcmartin@ebaysf.com">mailto:jcmartin@ebaysf.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 2, 2012 8:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [Quantum][LBaaS] LBaaS API 1.0 spec draft<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">But you can do PUT on /v1.0./pools/xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">How should we interpret this if the previous value of pools.members had 3 elements ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">JC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Youcef Laribi <<a href="mailto:Youcef.Laribi@eu.citrix.com">Youcef.Laribi@eu.citrix.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Fri, 2 Nov 2012 01:45:35 +0000<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [openstack-dev] [Quantum][LBaaS] LBaaS API 1.0 spec draft<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">JC,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">The API doesn’t define PUT operations on lists, so we don’t have this issue. To update the membership of the list, one removes and adds elements
to it. To update a specific element, one operates directly on the element.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thanks,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Youcef</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> JC Martin [<a href="mailto:jcmartin@ebaysf.com">mailto:jcmartin@ebaysf.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 1, 2012 6:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [Quantum][LBaaS] LBaaS API 1.0 spec draft</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Youcef,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">How do you distinguish between removing elements in a list and updating only some members ?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">For example, if you update the members attribute in a pool, is the semantic that you replace the list of members with the one in the put request ?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Is the rule that attribute values are always replaced by the values in put request (even lists) ?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thanks,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">JC</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Youcef Laribi <<a href="mailto:Youcef.Laribi@eu.citrix.com">Youcef.Laribi@eu.citrix.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thu, 1 Nov 2012 05:05:58 +0000<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [openstack-dev] [Quantum][LBaaS] LBaaS API 1.0 spec draft</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Let's add a note that all update operations adopt patch semantics (like Quantum does)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Good point. Yes, the semantics of “PUT” in REST is not universally agreed upon<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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