<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">And this is why I go off on the developer-oriented mentality of the OpenStack community.<div><br></div><div>The fact that there is no one in the OpenStack developer community writing XML stuff is not a reflection of the fact that there's no huge desire for XML.</div><div><br></div><div>It's in the spec for a reason: BECAUSE ENTERPRISES USE XML HEAVILY</div><div><br></div><div>OpenStack developers aren't that audience. They use JSON.</div><div><br></div><div>That the project can get to this point and not have tests for these things shows a flaw in the development processes, not some grand illustration of supply and demand.</div><div><br></div><div>Do I really have to point out that if the spec calls for JSON and XML, you should bloody well write integration tests to check for JSON and XML?</div><div><br></div><div>You don't write whatever happens to please you.</div><div><br></div><div>You know how I know all of this? I have an API that supports both XML and JSON. I personally prefer JSON. Most of my friends and colleagues prefer and use JSON.</div><div><br></div><div>Most of my customers use XML.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank $deity I actually write unit tests for each format.</div><div><br></div><div>-George</div><div><br></div><div><div>File under:</div><div>-> statistics 101</div><div>-> software development 101</div><div><br></div><div><div>On Aug 9, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya <<a href="mailto:vishvananda@gmail.com">vishvananda@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Aug 9, 2012, at 3:32 PM, George Reese <<a href="mailto:george.reese@imaginary.com">george.reese@imaginary.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Why aren't the integration tests both XML and JSON?</div></blockquote><br></div><div>The simple answer is that no one has taken the time to write them. Our devstack exercises use the python client bindings. Tempest has json clients but no xml clients[1]. I think this demonstrates that there just isn't a huge desire for xml. Users that I have chatted with just seem to care that the api works and that they they have good bindings.</div><div><br></div><div>I am definitely willing to be proven wrong on this point, but I'm secretly hoping everyone agrees with me. It is a lot of work to maintain three APIs (we are still maintaining EC2 as well) and keep them all functioning well, so if people are happy without OpenStack XML I would be perfectly content to deprecate it.</div><div><br></div><div>Vish</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://github.com/openstack/tempest/tree/master/tempest/services/nova/xml">https://github.com/openstack/tempest/tree/master/tempest/services/nova/xml</a></div><br></div>_______________________________________________<br>OpenStack-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org">OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a><br>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev<br></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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