[openstack-dev] [openstack-ansible] Meetings change (PTG discussion follow-up)
jean-philippe at evrard.me
Wed Mar 14 12:01:46 UTC 2018
We discussed the problem of the miscommunication at the PTG, and we
agreed the focus of the week solved many things for clarity.
I am not sure we need to send a ML summary, if all is recorded in the
meeting each week: people can just browse meetings for this info.
I have no strong opinion about office hours:
- it is more formal than our ad-hoc dicussions (more than necessary?).;
- it helps for timezones: We can have different office hours (US
based/Europe based) for discussing things;
- it can be reported during Tuesday's meeting.
Let's discuss this on the chan and validate next Tuesday I guess :)
Because there were no strong against the meeting time change/format we
should go ahead on the change of the community meetings.
So from now on, until daylight saving applies to Europe, we should
have the meetings on Tuesday at 5PM UTC.
On 6 March 2018 at 16:08, Amy Marrich <amy at demarco.com> wrote:
> When the Community meeting was moved to once a month there was a lot of
> resulting miscommunication as a result. If a weekly review is going to be
> sent to the mailing list with channel discussions is going to be sent out, I
> think that's a good alternative but the conversations still need to take
> place and as many people involved as possible. What about having office
> Amy (spotz)
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Jean-Philippe Evrard
> <jean-philippe at evrard.me> wrote:
>> During the PTG, we've discussed about changing our meetings.
>> I'd like to have a written evidence in our mailing lists, showing what
>> we discussed, and what we proposed to change. I propose we validate
>> those changes if they get no opposition in the next 7 days (deadline:
>> 13 March).
>> What we discussed was:
>> - Should the meetings be rescheduled, and at what time;
>> - Should the meetings be happening in alternance for US/Europe
>> friendly timezones;
>> - What is the purpose/expected outcome of those meetings;
>> - What is the reason the attendance is low.
>> The summary is the following:
>> - The expected outcome of bug triage is currently (drumroll....)
>> actively triaging bugs which produces better deliverables (what a
>> - The expected outcome of the community meeting is to discuss about
>> what we actively need to work on together, but we are doing these kind
>> of conversations, ad-hoc, in the channel. So if we summarize things on
>> a regular basis to make sure everyone is aware of the conversations,
>> we should be good.
>> - The timezone friendly things won't impact the attendance positively.
>> - Right now, the Europe meetings can be postponed of one hour, but
>> decision should be re-discussed with daylight saving.
>> - A lot of ppl have meetings at 4PM UTC right now.
>> As such, here is the PTG proposed change:
>> - Moving the bug triage meeting to 5PM UTC until next daylight saving
>> - Keep the "Focus of the week" section of the bug triage, to list what
>> we discussed in the week (if more conversations have to happen, they
>> can happen just after the bug triage)
>> - Removing the community meeting.
>> Any opposition there? If we are all okay, I will update our procedures
>> next week.
>> Best regards,
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