[openstack-dev] Pros and Cons of face-to-face meetings

Kendall Nelson kennelson11 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 8 17:59:10 UTC 2018


Yes! In the past I have helped a few different projects set up a way to do
a hangout that live streams to youtube so people can join the conversation
actively or passively depending on their involvement. I actually helped
write a blog post about it as well[1]. Cinder has been doing it for a few
years now and Neutron started doing the same at the PTG in Denver. Monasca
just got started live streaming in Dublin.

If there are any teams reading this that want help getting things set up
for next time I would be happy to help. Just let me know and I can walk you
through the process.

Also in the past, the Foundation has provided bluetooth speaker/microphones
to those that needed them to help with virtualization for remote attendees.
Perhaps that is something we could bring back.

Hope this helps!

-Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo)

[1]http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/community-participation-remote/

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:49 AM Flint WALRUS <gael.therond at gmail.com> wrote:

> Pretty easy, put the PTG online with a livestream on
> YouTube/Hangout/whatever platform that will then be saved and could even be
> watched later on!
>
> It’s just a matter of some hardware and a decent internet bandwidth that’s
> already available to almost every places where a PTG took place.
>
> Problem solved.
>
> PS: Even if I second your thoughts about the fact that some can make it to
> a physical meeting for some reason (And I’m one of them), your email sounds
> a little bit aggressive. Miss some smiley ? ;-)
> Le jeu. 8 mars 2018 à 15:04, Jens Harbott <j.harbott at x-ion.de> a écrit :
>
>> With the current PTG just finished and seeing discussions happen about
>> the format of the next[0], it seems that the advantages of these seem
>> to be pretty clear to most, so let me use the occasion to remind
>> everyone of the disadvantages.
>>
>> Every meeting that is happening is excluding those contributors that
>> can not attend it. And with that it is violating the fourth Open
>> principle[1], having a community that is open to everyone. If you are
>> wondering whom this would affect, here's a non-exclusive (sic) list of
>> valid reasons not to attend physical meetings:
>>
>> - Health issues
>> - Privilege issues (like not getting visa or travel permits)
>> - Caretaking responsibilities (children, other family, animals, plants)
>> - Environmental concerns
>>
>> So when you are considering whether it is worth the money and effort
>> to organise PTGs or similar events, I'd like you also to consider
>> those being excluded by such activities. It is not without a reason
>> that IRC and emails have been settled upon as preferred means of
>> communication. I'm not saying that physical meetings should be dropped
>> altogether, but maybe more effort can be placed into providing means
>> of remote participation, which might at least reduce some effects.
>>
>> [0]
>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/127991.html
>> [1] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/opens.html
>>
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