[openstack-dev] Garbage patches for simple typo fixes

Doug Hellmann doug at doughellmann.com
Sat Sep 23 16:25:22 UTC 2017


Excerpts from Qiming Teng's message of 2017-09-23 23:55:34 +0800:
> To some extent, I think Zhipeng is right. There are times we as a
> community have to do something beyond mentoring new developers. One of
> the reasons behind these patches are from the management chain of those
> companies. They need numbers, and they don't care what kind of
> contributions were made. They don't bother read these emails.
> 
> Another fact is that some companies are doing such things not just in the
> OpenStack community. Their developers are producing tons of low-quality
> "patches" to play this as a game in other communities as well. If we
> don't place a STOP sign, things will never get improved. By not doing
> something, we are hurting everyone, including those developers who could
> have done more meaningful contributions, though their number of patches
> may decrease.
> 
> Just my 2 cents.
> 
> - Qiming 

This may be true. Before we create harsh processes, however, we
need to collect the data to show that other attempts to provide
guidance have not worked.  We have a lot of anecdotal information
right now. We need to collect that and summarize it. If the results
show that there are clear abuses, rather than misunderstandings,
then we can use the data to design effective blocks without hurting
other contributors or creating a reputation that our community is
not welcoming.

Doug

> 
> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 08:34:18AM +0800, Zhipeng Huang wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> > 
> > Unfortunately I know better on this matter and it is not the matter of
> > topic dispute as many people on this thread who has been disturbed and
> > annoyed by the padding/trolling.
> > 
> > So yes I'm sticking with stupid because it hurts the OpenStack community as
> > a whole and hurts the reputation of the dev community from my country which
> > in large are great people with good hearts and skills.
> > 
> > I'm not giving even an inch of the benefit of doubt to these padding
> > activities and people behind it.
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Paul Belanger <pabelanger at redhat.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> 



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