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Rodrigo,

Isn't what you just described the reseller use case [0]? Was that work ever
fully finished? I thought I remember having discussions in Tokyo about it.


[0]
http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/mitaka/reseller.html

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 7:38 AM, Rodrigo Duarte <rodrigodsousa at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Adrian,
>
> In project hierarchies, it is not that simple to have a "tree admin".
> Imagine you have something like the following:
>
> A -> B -> C
>
> You are an admin of project C and want to create a project called
> "secret_D" under C:
>
> A -> B -> C -> secret_D
>
> This is an example of a hierarchy where the admin of project A is not
> supposed to "see" the whole tree. Of course we could implement this in a
> different way, like using a flag "secret" in project "secret_D", but the
> implementation we chose was the one that made more sense for the way role
> assignments are organized. For example, we can assign to project A admin an
> inherited role assignment, which will give access to the whole subtree and
> make it impossible to create a "secret_D" project like we defined above -
> it is basically a choice between the possibility to have "hidden" projects
> or not in the subtree.
>
> However, we can always improve! Please submit a spec where we will be able
> to discuss in further detail the options we have to improve the current UX
> of the HMT feature :)
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 12:24 AM, Adrian Turjak <adriant at catalyst.net.nz>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Keystone Devs,
>>
>> I've been playing with subtrees in Keystone for the last while, and one
>> thing that hit me recently is that as admin, I still can't actually do
>> subtree_as_list unless I have a role in all projects in the subtree.
>> This is kind of silly.
>
>
>> I can understand why this limitation was implemented, but it's also a
>> frustrating constraint because as an admin, I have the power to add
>> myself to all these projects anyway, why then can't I just list them?
>
>
>> Right now if I want to get a list of all the subtree projects I need to
>> do subtree_as_ids, then list ALL projects, and then go through that list
>> grabbing out only the projects I want. This is a pointless set of
>> actions, and having to get the full project list when I just need a
>> small subset is really wasteful.
>
>
>> Beyond the admin case, people may in fact want certain roles to be able
>> to see the full subtree regardless of access. In fact I have a role
>> 'project_admin' which allows you to edit your own roles within the scope
>> of your project, including set those roles to inherit down, and create
>> subprojects. If you have the project_admin role, it would make sense to
>> see the full subtree regardless of your actually having access to each
>> element in the subtree or not.
>>
>> Looking at the code in Keystone, I'm not entirely sure there is a good
>> way to set role based policy for this given how it was setup. Another
>> option might be to introduce a filter which allows listing of
>> subprojects. Project list is already an admin/cloud_admin only command
>> so there is no need to limit it, and the filter could be as simple as
>> 'subtree=<project_id>' and would make getting subtrees as admin, or a
>> given admin-like role, actually doable without the pain of roles
>> everywhere.
>>
>> The HMT stuff in Keystone is very interesting, and potentially very
>> useful, but it also feels like so many of the features are a little
>> half-baked. :(
>>
>> Anyone with some insight into this and is there any interest in making
>> subtree listing more flexible/useful?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Adrian Turjak
>>
>>
>> Further reading:
>> https://github.com/openstack/keystone-specs/blob/master/spec
>> s/keystone/kilo/project-hierarchy-retrieval.rst
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1434916
>> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167231
>>
>>
>>
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