[openstack-dev] [all] [barbican] [security] Why are projects trying to avoid Barbican, still?

Douglas Mendizábal douglas.mendizabal at rackspace.com
Wed Jan 18 18:33:15 UTC 2017


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I'm very much interested in an out-of-the-box software-only backend
driver for Barbican.

I think that one of the reasons people have been hesitant to deploy
Barbican is that we claim that our Simple Crypto software-only driver
is "not secure in any way", when really we should be saying that it
provides minimal security which may or may not be acceptable to your
business.

I believe we could provide a level of security comparable to
software-only Vault with considerably less effort than it would take
to create a driver that can utilize Vault.

We could, for example, add a new API call to provide the encryption
key at runtime instead of requiring it to be present in the conf file.

- - Douglas

On 1/16/17 12:43 PM, Rob C wrote:
> 
> The last I checked, Rob, they also support DogTag IPA which is
> purely a Software based HSM. Hopefully the Barbican team can
> confirm this. -- Ian Cordasco
> 
> 
> Yup, that's my understanding too. However, that requires Barbican
> _and_ Dogtag, an even bigger overhead. Especially as at least
> historically Dogtag has been difficult to maintain. If you have a
> deployment already, there's a great synergy there. If you don't
> then it introduces a lot of overhead.
> 
> I'm interested to know if an out of the box, stand alone
> software-only version of Barbican would be any more appealing
> 
> Cheers -Rob
> 
> 
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