[openstack-dev] [nova] resignation from bug czar role

Alex Xu soulxu at gmail.com
Tue Sep 6 01:59:40 UTC 2016


Markus, thank you for all your help!

2016-09-05 19:19 GMT+08:00 Markus Zoeller <mzoeller at linux.vnet.ibm.com>:

> TL;DR: bug czar role for Nova is vacant from now on
>
>
> After doing bug triage for ~1 year, which was quiet interesting, it's
> time for me to move to different topics. My tasks within the company
> internal team are shifting too. Unfortunately less Nova for me in the
> next (hopefully short) time. That means I'm resigning from the bug czar
> role as of now.
>
>
> Observations in this timeframe
> ------------------------------
>
> * The quality of most of the bug reports could be better. Very often
> they are not actionable. A bug report which isn't actionable burns
> resources without any benefit. The pattern I've seen is:
>     * 1/3 : invalid because they are support requests or a wrong
> understanding
>     * 1/3 : could be reasonable but essential information is missing
>     * 1/3 : sounds reasonable + has a little info, should be looked at
>   Very few follow this template which is shown when you open a new
> report: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugsTeam/BugReportTemplate
>
> * We get ~40 new bug reports per week. With the current number of people
> who do bug triage, the number of overall bug reports doesn't decline. I
> started collecting data 6 months ago:
>
> http://45.55.105.55:3000/dashboard/db/openstack-bugs?
> from=now-6M&panelId=1&fullscreen
>
> * I wish the cores would engage more in bug triaging. If one core every
> other week would do the bug triage for 1 week, a core would have to do
> that only once per dev cycle. I'm aware of the review backlog though :/
>
> * I wish more non-cores would engage more in bug triaging.
>
> * We don't have contacts for a lot of areas in Nova:
>   https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tag_Owner_List
>
> * Keeping the bug reports in a consistent state is cumbersome:
>   http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html#tabInProgressStale
>   We could introduce more automation here.
>
>
> Things we should continue
> -------------------------
>
> * Bug reports older that the oldest supported stable release should be
>   expired. Maybe best when the EOL tag gets applied.
>
> https://github.com/openstack-infra/release-tools/blob/
> master/expire_old_bug_reports.py
>   http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095654.html
>
> * We never came to a real conclusion how the ops communicated the RFEs
> to us. The way of using "wishlist" bug reports wasn't successful IMO.
> The last proposal was to use the ops ML to bring an RFE into some
> actionable shape and then create a backlog spec out of it.
>   http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-
> March/089365.html
>
>
>
> Things we should start
> ----------------------
>
> * A cross-project discussion of (easy) ways to collect and send debug
> data to upstream OpenStack. Almost no bug report in Nova had the result
> of "sosreport" attached although we ask for that in the report template.
>
>
>
> Some last words
> ---------------
>
> * Whoever wants to do the job next, I offer some kind of onboarding.
>
> * I'll push a change to remove the IRC meetings in the next few days:
>   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Nova_Bugs_Team_Meeting
>
> * The tooling I used will still be available at:
>   https://github.com/markuszoeller/openstack/tree/master/scripts/launchpad
>
> * My server which hosts some dashboards will still be available at:
>   http://45.55.105.55:3000/dashboard/db/openstack-bugs
>   http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html
>   http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-stats.html
>
> * I did an evaluation of Storyboard in July 2016 and it looks promising.
> Give it a shot at: https://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/#!/project/2 If
> you don't like something there, push a change, it's Python based.
>
> * I'll still hang out in the IRC channels, but don't expect much from me.
>
>
> Thanks a lot to the people who helped making Nova a better project by
> doing bug triage! Special thanks to auggy who put a lot(!) of effort
> into that.
>
> See you (hopefully) in Barcelona!
>
> --
> Regards,
> Markus Zoeller (markus_z)
>
>
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