[openstack-dev] [nova] resignation from bug czar role

Timofei Durakov tdurakov at mirantis.com
Mon Sep 5 16:33:59 UTC 2016


Hi, folks,

Thanks, Markus, for doing this job! I'm interested in this activity.

Timofey

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Sylvain Bauza <sbauza at redhat.com> wrote:

>
>
> Le 05/09/2016 13:19, Markus Zoeller a écrit :
>
>> TL;DR: bug czar role for Nova is vacant from now on
>>
>>
>> After doing bug triage for ~1 year, which was quiet interesting, it's
>> time for me to move to different topics. My tasks within the company
>> internal team are shifting too. Unfortunately less Nova for me in the
>> next (hopefully short) time. That means I'm resigning from the bug czar
>> role as of now.
>>
>>
>> Observations in this timeframe
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> * The quality of most of the bug reports could be better. Very often
>> they are not actionable. A bug report which isn't actionable burns
>> resources without any benefit. The pattern I've seen is:
>>      * 1/3 : invalid because they are support requests or a wrong
>> understanding
>>      * 1/3 : could be reasonable but essential information is missing
>>      * 1/3 : sounds reasonable + has a little info, should be looked at
>>    Very few follow this template which is shown when you open a new
>> report: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugsTeam/BugReportTemplate
>>
>> * We get ~40 new bug reports per week. With the current number of people
>> who do bug triage, the number of overall bug reports doesn't decline. I
>> started collecting data 6 months ago:
>>
>> http://45.55.105.55:3000/dashboard/db/openstack-bugs?from=
>> now-6M&panelId=1&fullscreen
>>
>> * I wish the cores would engage more in bug triaging. If one core every
>> other week would do the bug triage for 1 week, a core would have to do
>> that only once per dev cycle. I'm aware of the review backlog though :/
>>
>> * I wish more non-cores would engage more in bug triaging.
>>
>> * We don't have contacts for a lot of areas in Nova:
>>    https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tag_Owner_List
>>
>> * Keeping the bug reports in a consistent state is cumbersome:
>>    http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html#tabInProgressStale
>>    We could introduce more automation here.
>>
>>
>> Things we should continue
>> -------------------------
>>
>> * Bug reports older that the oldest supported stable release should be
>>    expired. Maybe best when the EOL tag gets applied.
>>
>> https://github.com/openstack-infra/release-tools/blob/master
>> /expire_old_bug_reports.py
>>    http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May
>> /095654.html
>>
>> * We never came to a real conclusion how the ops communicated the RFEs
>> to us. The way of using "wishlist" bug reports wasn't successful IMO.
>> The last proposal was to use the ops ML to bring an RFE into some
>> actionable shape and then create a backlog spec out of it.
>>    http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-Mar
>> ch/089365.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Things we should start
>> ----------------------
>>
>> * A cross-project discussion of (easy) ways to collect and send debug
>> data to upstream OpenStack. Almost no bug report in Nova had the result
>> of "sosreport" attached although we ask for that in the report template.
>>
>>
>>
>> Some last words
>> ---------------
>>
>> * Whoever wants to do the job next, I offer some kind of onboarding.
>>
>> * I'll push a change to remove the IRC meetings in the next few days:
>>    http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Nova_Bugs_Team_Meeting
>>
>> * The tooling I used will still be available at:
>>    https://github.com/markuszoeller/openstack/tree/master/
>> scripts/launchpad
>>
>> * My server which hosts some dashboards will still be available at:
>>    http://45.55.105.55:3000/dashboard/db/openstack-bugs
>>    http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-dashboard.html
>>    http://45.55.105.55:8082/bugs-stats.html
>>
>> * I did an evaluation of Storyboard in July 2016 and it looks promising.
>> Give it a shot at: https://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/#!/project/2 If
>> you don't like something there, push a change, it's Python based.
>>
>> * I'll still hang out in the IRC channels, but don't expect much from me.
>>
>>
>> Thanks a lot to the people who helped making Nova a better project by
>> doing bug triage! Special thanks to auggy who put a lot(!) of effort
>> into that.
>>
>> See you (hopefully) in Barcelona!
>>
>
> As said on IRC, hope we'll still see you around, and see you in Barcelona.
> You made a great job !
>
> -Sylvain
>
>
> --
>> Regards,
>> Markus Zoeller (markus_z)
>>
>>
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