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> On Oct 21, 2016, at 7:22 AM, Chris Dent <cdent+os at anticdent.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016, Sean Dague wrote:
>> 
>> The reason we have volume, volumev2, and volumev3 is that no one actually wants the unversioned volume endpoint. You can't do anything with it. Everyone wants the actual endpoint that has resources.
> 
> That's right, they do want the endpoint that has the resources, but
> do they care about asking for a version? I'm not sure. I think they
> just want the thing that's going to work and the version is
> superfluous.
> 
>> We can solve this for all consumers by adding additional version field to the catalog. This was the direction we were headed last spring before the api-ref work took over.
> 
> I'd rather not see versions in the service catalog as a reified entity
> because it increases the surface area of an endpoint request. I don't
> want to have think which version I want. Or if I do, I want it to be
> built into the service type. We want the service type to be the
> entrypoint for endpoints...
> 
> In any case, just for reference, both the arch-wg and the api-wg
> have expressed a lot of concern about and interest in the service
> catalog (and the service authority idea that was bouncing around for
> a while too). So I agree with everyone else who is saying "yeah,
> it's time to make this better."

This is the sort of issue that would work well as a community-wide goal. If we get a group together to resolve some of the issues you list below, they can act as guides to steer the work and help teams with the transition. If we act quickly maybe we can make enough progress to do it for Pike. 

Doug

> 
> There are a lot of issues:
> 
> * how to deal with versions
> * auth handling at the top-level endpoint
> * service type value consistency amongst clouds
> * public, internal, admin, whatever endpoints (can we make it so
>  there is one and only one‽)
> * dynamic v static service catalogs in the face of different
>  contexts
> * whatever else I'm forgetting right now because the coffee is weak
>  but I'm sure someone else remembers
> 
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