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On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info> wrote:

> On 2016-10-11 01:40 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:
>
>> On Oct 11, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info> wrote:
>>
>> There really needs to be a period when a) we know who all the candidates
>>>> are, and b) voting has not yet begun.
>>>>
>>> Why?
>>>
>>> The voting period is open for a period of several days, voters have the
>>> ability to vote at any time during that voting period.
>>>
>>   Because many people vote as soon as they receive their ballot.
>>
>
> That is their choice.
>
>
Anita,

I agree, that voters may choose to refrain from voting.  I don't hear
anyone saying "people *can not* make time for thoughtful reflection on the
candidates" - but suggestion that perhaps they *did not*?  Is there anyway
we could get numbers about how many voters waited until the end of week
like I did?

If most voters did wait until later in the week, I think we can reject the
premise as false and accept that the week while voting is open *is* the
time in the process that most of the electorate uses for reflection on the
candidates.

If many *did* vote early in the week before some policy/platform points
were discussed one might even assume these voters have some remorse -
perhaps they will behave differently next time?  Not known.

OTOH, if we actively broadcast a period of time with the expressed purpose
of facilitating this discussion I think it sends a message that we as a
community expect this discussion to happen and have an impact on the
results of the election.  Is there a *downside* to a 3 week election period
as proposed by Ed, Chris and others?

-Clay




>   I know that I typically do so that it doesn’t get lost under the flood
>> of email.
>>
>
> I have found putting a star on the email when it comes it helps to ensure
> I don't lose it, but everyone has a different email organizing workflow.
>
>   This wouldn’t be so bad if you could later change your vote, but once it
>> is cast, it can’t be changed. What that means is that if a candidate I knew
>> little about says something that either interests me or turns me off, I can
>> *use* that information.
>>
>
> You still can now, you just have to choose to listen to candidates prior
> to voting.
>
> Monty suggested somewhere that we reissue the email ballots everyday
> (since we had email issues this time, I have no idea if that would result
> in us being kicked off the service we currently use or not). If the issue
> is, I want to ensure I can find my ballot when I need it, I think we can
> explore options that don't include requiring election officials to expand
> their commitment for an additional week.
>
>
>> A voter can ask the panel of candidates any question they wish such that
>>> they are satisfied prior to voting.
>>>
>> Of course; no one has said otherwise. But if someone else asks a question
>> that may not have occurred to me to ask, the answers given can still be
>> influential on my choices. Look at Gordon Chung’s question in this recent
>> cycle: I’m sure that there were lots of people who benefited from that
>> question and the many answers, not just Gordon.
>>
>
> I know I benefited from Gord's question, both as a candidate and as a
> voter. Thank you, Gord.
>
> Again, I feel the choice exists.
>
>
>> Additionally should the decision be made to go forward with some form of
>>> the candidate answers as I offered to the electorate in October 2014, those
>>> answers could be available as platforms are posted such that all responses
>>> are available as soon as the poll begins.
>>>
>> I think that this is a great idea, and would be willing to help in the
>> effort to make that happen again.
>>
>
> Thanks Ed, it felt satisfying to offer it when I did it. I hope others
> feel the same as you.
>
> Thanks,
> Anita.
>
>
>
>>
>> -- Ed Leafe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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