[openstack-dev] [neutron] work on Common Flow Classifier and OVS Agent extension for Newton cycle

Takashi Yamamoto yamamoto at midokura.com
Mon May 16 13:25:31 UTC 2016


hi,

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:00 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka <ihrachys at redhat.com> wrote:
> +1 for earlier time. But also, have we booked any channel for the meeting? Hijacking #openstack-neutron may not work fine during such a busy (US) time. I suggest we propose a patch for https://github.com/openstack-infra/irc-meetings

i agree and submitted a patch.
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316830/

>
> Ihar
>
>> On 10 May 2016, at 20:35, Cathy Zhang <Cathy.H.Zhang at huawei.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is always hard to find a day and time that is good for everyone around the globe:-)
>> The first meeting will still be UTC 1700 ~ UTC 1800 May 17 on Neutron channel.
>> In the meeting, we can see if we can reach consensus on a new meeting time.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Takashi Yamamoto [mailto:yamamoto at midokura.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:40 AM
>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] work on Common Flow Classifier and OVS Agent extension for Newton cycle
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:41 AM,  <thomas.morin at orange.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Cathy,
>>>
>>> Cathy Zhang:
>>>>
>>>> I will tentatively set the meeting time to UTC 1700 ~ UTC 1800 Tuesday.
>>>> Hope this time is good for all people who have interest and like to
>>>> contribute to this work. We plan to start the first meeting on May 17.
>>>
>>>
>>> I would be happy to participate, but I'm unlikely to be able to attend
>>> at that time.
>>> Might 15:00 UTC work for others ?
>>
>> +1 for earlier
>>
>>> If not, well, I'll make do with log/emails/pads/gerrit interactions.
>>>
>>> -Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Cathy Zhang
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 11:43 AM
>>>> To: Cathy Zhang; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
>>>> questions); Ihar Hrachyshka; Vikram Choudhary; Sean M. Collins; Haim
>>>> Daniel; Mathieu Rohon; Shaughnessy, David; Eichberger, German; Henry
>>>> Fourie; armamig at gmail.com; Miguel Angel Ajo; Reedip; Thierry Carrez
>>>> Cc: Cathy Zhang
>>>> Subject: RE: [openstack-dev] [neutron] work on Common Flow Classifier
>>>> and OVS Agent extension for Newton cycle
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> We have room 400 at 3:10pm on Thursday available for discussion of
>>>> the two topics.
>>>> Another option is to use the common room with roundtables in "Salon C"
>>>> during Monday or Wednesday lunch time.
>>>>
>>>> Room 400 at 3:10pm is a closed room while the Salon C is a big open
>>>> room which can host 500 people.
>>>>
>>>> I am Ok with either option. Let me know if anyone has a strong preference.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Cathy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Cathy Zhang
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 1:23 PM
>>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions);
>>>> 'Ihar Hrachyshka'; Vikram Choudhary; 'Sean M. Collins'; 'Haim
>>>> Daniel'; 'Mathieu Rohon'; 'Shaughnessy, David'; 'Eichberger, German';
>>>> Cathy Zhang; Henry Fourie; 'armamig at gmail.com'
>>>> Subject: RE: [openstack-dev] [neutron] work on Common Flow Classifier
>>>> and OVS Agent extension for Newton cycle
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for everyone's reply!
>>>>
>>>> Here is the summary based on the replies I received:
>>>>
>>>> 1.  We should have a meet-up for these two topics. The "to" list are
>>>> the people who have interest in these topics.
>>>>     I am thinking about around lunch time on Tuesday or Wednesday
>>>> since some of us will fly back on Friday morning/noon.
>>>>     If this time is OK with everyone, I will find a place and let
>>>> you know where and what time to meet.
>>>>
>>>> 2.  There is a bug opened for the QoS Flow Classifier
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1527671
>>>> We can either change the bug title and modify the bug details or
>>>> start with a new one for the common FC which provides info on all
>>>> requirements needed by all relevant use cases. There is a bug opened
>>>> for OVS agent extension
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1517903
>>>>
>>>> 3.  There are some very rough, ugly as Sean put it:-), and
>>>> preliminary work on common FC
>>>> https://github.com/openstack/neutron-classifier which we can see how
>>>> to leverage. There is also a SFC API spec which covers the FC API for
>>>> SFC usage
>>>> https://github.com/openstack/networking-sfc/blob/master/doc/source/ap
>>>> i.rst, the following is the CLI version of the Flow Classifier for
>>>> your
>>>> reference:
>>>>
>>>> neutron flow-classifier-create [-h]
>>>>         [--description <description>]
>>>>         [--protocol <protocol>]
>>>>         [--ethertype <Ethertype>]
>>>>         [--source-port <Minimum source protocol port>:<Maximum
>>>> source protocol port>]
>>>>         [--destination-port <Minimum destination protocol
>>>> port>:<Maximum destination protocol port>]
>>>>         [--source-ip-prefix <Source IP prefix>]
>>>>         [--destination-ip-prefix <Destination IP prefix>]
>>>>         [--logical-source-port <Neutron source port>]
>>>>         [--logical-destination-port <Neutron destination port>]
>>>>         [--l7-parameters <L7 parameter>] FLOW-CLASSIFIER-NAME
>>>>
>>>> The corresponding code is here
>>>> https://github.com/openstack/networking-sfc/tree/master/networking_sf
>>>> c/extensions
>>>>
>>>> 4.  We should come up with a formal Neutron spec for FC and another
>>>> one for OVS Agent extension and get everyone's review and approval.
>>>> Here is the etherpad catching our previous requirement discussion on
>>>> OVS agent (Thanks David for the link! I remember we had this
>>>> discussion before)
>>>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/l2-agent-extensions-api-expansion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> More inline.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Cathy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ihar Hrachyshka [mailto:ihrachys at redhat.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 3:34 AM
>>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] work on Common Flow Classifier
>>>> and OVS Agent extension for Newton cycle
>>>>
>>>> Cathy Zhang <Cathy.H.Zhang at huawei.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> Per Armando’s request, Louis and I are looking into the following
>>>>> features for Newton cycle.
>>>>> ·         Neutron Common FC used for SFC, QoS, Tap as a service etc.,
>>>>> ·         OVS Agent extension
>>>>> Some of you might know that we already developed a FC in
>>>>> networking-sfc project and QoS also has a FC. It makes sense that we
>>>>> have one common FC in Neutron that could be shared by SFC, QoS, Tap
>>>>> as a service etc.
>>>>> features in Neutron.
>>>>
>>>> I don’t actually know of any classifier in QoS. It’s only planned to
>>>> emerge, but there are no specs or anything specific to the feature.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I agree that classifier API belongs to core neutron and
>>>> should be reused by all interested subprojects from there.
>>>>
>>>>> Different features may extend OVS agent and add different new OVS
>>>>> flow tables to support their new functionality. A mechanism is
>>>>> needed to ensure consistent OVS flow table modification when
>>>>> multiple features co-exist. AFAIK, there is some preliminary work on
>>>>> this, but it is not a complete solution yet.
>>>>
>>>> I think there is no formal spec or anything, just some emails around
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I don’t follow why it’s a requirement for SFC to switch to
>>>> l2 agent extension mechanism. Even today, with SFC maintaining its
>>>> own agent, there are no clear guarantees for flow priorities that
>>>> would avoid all possible conflicts.
>>>>
>>>> Cathy> There is no requirement for SFC to switch. My understanding is
>>>> Cathy> that
>>>> current L2 agent extension does not solve the conflicting entry issue
>>>> if two features inject the same priority table entry. I think this
>>>> new L2 agent effort is try to come up with a mechanism to resolve
>>>> this issue. Of course if each feature( SFC or Qos) uses its own
>>>> agent, then there is no coordination and no way to avoid conflicts.
>>>>
>>>>> We will like to start these effort by collecting requirements and
>>>>> then posting specifications for review. If any of you would like to
>>>>> join this effort, please chime in. We can set up a meet-up session
>>>>> in the Summit to discuss this face-in-face.
>>>>
>>>> Great. Let’s have a meetup for this topic.
>>>>
>>>> Ihar
>>>>
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