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On 2016-05-12 02:59, Nikhil Komawar wrote:
> Thanks Josh about your reply. It's helpful.
> 
> The attempt of this cross project work is to come up with a standard way
> of implementing quota logic that can be used by different services.
> Currently, different projects have their individual implementations and
> there are many learning lessons. The library is supposed to be born out
> of that shared wisdom.
> 
> Hence, it needs to be an independent library that can make progress in a
> way, to be successfully adopted and vetted upon by cross project cases;
> but not necessarily enforce cross project standardization for projects
> to adopt it in a particular way.
> 
> 
> So, not oslo for now at least [1]. BigTent? -- I do not know the
> consequences of it not being in BigTent. We do not need design summit
> slot dedicated for this project, neither do we need to have elections,
> nor it is a big enough project to be coordinated with a specific release
> milestone (Newton, Ocata, etc.). The team, though, does follow the four
> opens [2]. So, we can in future go for either option as needed. As long
> as it lives under openstack/delimiter umbrella, runs the standard gate
> tests, follows the release process of openstack for libraries (but not
> necessarily require intervention of the release team), we are happy.

The release team only takes care of Big Tent projects, documentation and
translation teams are not covering independent projects - including
using the docs.openstack.org web site for publishing. Even in the Big
Tent you are not forced to release at a specific release milestone.

We don't have stackforge anymore by name, just by spirit: you can create
a repo for this as independent project as openstack/delimter,

Note that you can also start now under an existing project - like
keystone, glance or oslo - and later spin off as separate independent team.

Starting off independent is fine in general - it just really strikes me
as odd that a cross-project effort considers itself outside of the Big Tent,

Andreas
> 
> 
> [1] Personally, I do not care of where it lives after it has been
> adopted by a few different projects. But let's keep the future
> discussions in the Pandora's box for now.
> 
> [2] The four opens http://governance.openstack.org/reference/opens.html
> 
> On 5/11/16 7:16 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote:
>> So it was under my belief that at its current stage that this library
>> would start off on its own, and not initially start of (just yet) in
>> oslo (as I think the oslo group wants to not be the
>> blocker/requirement for a library being a successful thing + the cost
>> of it being in oslo may not be warranted yet).
>>
>> If in the future we as a community think it is better under oslo (and
>> said membership into oslo will help); then I'm ok with it being
>> there... I just know that others (in the oslo group) have other
>> thoughts here (and hopefully they can chime in).
>>
>> Part of this is also being refined in
>> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/312233/ and that hopefully can be a
>> guideline for new libraries that come along.
>>
>> -Josh
>>
>> Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>>> Since the review [1] to create the repo is up now, I have one question:
>>> This is a cross-project effort, so what is it's governance?
>>>
>>> The review stated it will be an independent project outside of the big
>>> tent - but seeing that this should become a common part for core
>>> projects and specific to OpenStack, I wonder whether that is the right
>>> approach. It fits nicely into Oslo as cross-project library - or it
>>> could be an independent team on its own in the Big Tent.
>>>
>>> But cross-project and outside of Big Tent looks very strange to me,
>>>
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/284454
>>
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