anteaya at anteaya.info
Wed May 11 21:42:14 UTC 2016
On 05/11/2016 02:06 PM, Paul Belanger wrote:
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 05:51:41PM +0000, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
>> On 2016-05-11 10:04:26 -0400 (-0400), Sean Dague wrote:
>>> Before deciding that it's unsurmountable, maybe giving delete
>>> permissions to a larger set of contributors might be a good idea.
>> I have no objection to granting delete (on non-locked articles) to
>> all users immediately if someone works out the necessary
>> configuration change to put that into effect. I expect it was
>> restricted by default to encourage people to instead annotate
>> articles as deprecated or use the "move" feature to redirect them to
>> more relevant ones. That said, I think we're at the point where we
>> should start considering such important content as candidates to
>> move elsewhere outside the wiki (especially any currently remaining
>> locked articles).
>>> I do realize running a public wiki is a PITA, especially at the
>>> target level of openstack.org.
>> The thing which would most significantly reduce its attractiveness
>> to spammers would be to stop having major search engines index the
>> content on it. Somewhere they can publish content and have it
>> immediately show up in search engine results is really _all_ they
>> care about. Maybe a compromise is to say that the wiki is an okay
>> place to publish things you don't need people to find through
>> external search engines? Then we could quite easily open account
>> creation back up with minimal risk and much lower moderator demand.
> I think giving out delete permissions is a good first step, however if we are
> going down this path of keep the wiki alive, I believe we have to look at
> re-evaluating mediawiki.
Our current plan includes keeping the wiki maintained for a least a year
in any case, for some definition of maintained. On the etherpad for the
session, Craige had made notes of wikis other than mediawiki that he
liked. The group that was in the session decided not to pursue an
investigation of these suggestions but should any party feel interested
in investigating and creating a comparison, the suggestions still exist
in the session etherpad.
> Our current setup with puppet is not idea and I feel
> mediawiki is maybe too much software for what we are doing.
> I'd love to use something more easier to manage (ideally not php based).
>> Jeremy Stanley
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