[openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

Clint Byrum clint at fewbar.com
Thu Jul 28 16:29:01 UTC 2016


Excerpts from Fox, Kevin M's message of 2016-07-27 22:56:56 +0000:
> I think that would be true, if the container api was opinionated. for example, trying to map only a subset of the openstack config options to docker environment variables. This would make the containers specific to what your talking about. Which business rules to support, what hardware, etc.
> 
> But the api is a fairly small one. Its mostly a standardized way to pass config files in through docker volumes and get them to land in the right places in the container. You should be able to use any system you want (puppet, chef, jinja, shell scripts) to deal with the business logic and such, to generate the config files, then use the standard api contract to ensure that whatever way you launch the container, (puppet, chef, heat, docker run, kubelet, kubernetes, etc) it behaves the same. The way your generated config file specifies.
> 
> Kolla has provided many different variants of each of the containers (centos, ubuntu, etc), showing that api contract is pretty flexible.
> 
> A similar thing is going on with kolla-kubernetes.
> 

I appreciate your optimism, however, Kolla is not "the deployment of
OpenStack". It is a set of tools to deploy OpenStack with a set of options
available. If it were a small thing to do, people would choose it. But
instead, they know, the combinatorial matrix of options is staggering,
and one is much better off specializing if they don't fit into the
somewhat generic model that any tool like Kolla provides.

I'd say focus on _keeping things like Kolla focused_ rather than
worrying about making it interoperable.



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