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On 7/26/16, 2:13 PM, "Jim Rollenhagen" <jim at jimrollenhagen.com> wrote:

>On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 08:36:01PM +0000, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote:
>> Dims,
>> 
>> The project-config addition was debated by Andreas before this
>>partnership
>> in this press release was announced and the full intent of the project
>>was
>> understood.  The argument I see used in the review  is that since
>>fuel-ccp
>> not part of Newton, it doesn't need to be in the projects.yaml file.
>> Given the intent of the project is obvious (to me) from the press
>>release
>> to join the big tent, my two requests still apply.  At present this
>> project may be perceived as "flying under the radar" and further not
>> following the four opens as I already stated.
>
>I'm confused, what specifically is happening that is against the four
>opens? What part of the press release implies big tent in the future?

My exact words were proceeded by "may be perceived"

The press release itself implies a big effort with big contributors hence
big tent.

>
>> 
>> The two requests were:
>> 
>> 1. Please submit the repositories for projects.yaml TC oversight
>> 2. Please change Fuel's mission statement to match reality of this
>> announcement 
>
>Why? The current mission statement is "To streamline and accelerate the
>process of deploying, testing and maintaining various configurations of
>OpenStack at scale." I don't see why anything about this announcement
>doesn't fit into that mission statement.

That mission statement doesn't match intent, which is to produce a
kubernetes deployment of openstack.  I don't feel "various configurations"
cuts it.

But its really up to the Fuel team, not you or I.

Regards
-steve

>
>// jim
>
>> 
>> Regards
>> -steve
>> 
>> On 7/26/16, 1:18 PM, "Davanum Srinivas" <davanum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >Steven,
>> >
>> >fyi, This was debated in the project-config review:
>> >https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335584/
>> >
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Dims
>> >
>> >On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Steven Dake (stdake)
>><stdake at cisco.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> Dims,
>> >>
>> >> Given the strong language around partnership between Intel, Mirantis,
>> >>and
>> >> Google in that press release, and the activity in the review queue (2
>> >> pages of outstanding reviews) it seems clear to me that the intent is
>> >>for
>> >> this part of Fuel to participate in the big tent.  The right thing
>>to do
>> >> here is for fuel-ccp to submit their repos to TC oversight by adding
>> >>them
>> >> to the official project list.
>> >>
>> >> Fuel requires a mission change, or it may be perceived that Fuel
>>itself
>> >> does not adhere to the Four Opens [1] specifically Open Development
>>and
>> >> Open Community.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> -steve
>> >>
>> >> [1] 
>> 
>>>>https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/opens.rst
>> >>
>> >> On 7/26/16, 11:15 AM, "Davanum Srinivas" <davanum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>And. it's here in OpenStack:
>> >>>
>> >>>Look for fuel-ccp-* in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/ or the gerrit
>> >>>search
>> 
>>>>>https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+project:^op
>>>>>en
>> >>>st
>> >>>ack/fuel-ccp.*
>> >>>
>> >>>-- Dims
>> >>>
>> >>>On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Fox, Kevin M <Kevin.Fox at pnnl.gov>
>> >>>wrote:
>> >>>> They are starting their own project.
>> >>>> ________________________________________
>> >>>> From: Stephen Hindle [shindle at llnw.com]
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:35 AM
>> >>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>> >>>> Subject: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] Looks like Mirantis is
>>getting
>> >>>>Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So just saw this:
>> >>>>
>> 
>>>>>>http://www.computerweekly.com/blog/Open-Source-Insider/OpenStack-on-K
>>>>>>ub
>> >>>>er
>> >>>>netes-Mirantis-fuels-Fuel-with-Google-Intel-heat
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>> >>>> Wonder if that means we'll get more devs or maybe some prebuilt
>> >>>> containers for Kolla?
>> >>>>
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