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LOL Tom :)

-- Dims

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:32 AM, Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org> wrote:
> On 14/01/16 15:22, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>>
>> On 2016-01-14 08:13, Tom Fifield wrote:
>>>
>>> So, I'm prompted by another 20 oslo release emails to dredge up this
>>> thread :)
>>>
>>> There appears to be broad consensus that those shouldn't be going to the
>>> announce list ... what do we need to do to get that to change to posted
>>> to "-dev + batched inside the weekly -dev digest from thingee" as
>>> Thierry suggested?
>>
>>
>> So, those 20 odd olso release emails all went to -dev, the release team
>> changed the logic, see also
>>
>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083749.html
>
>
> Apologies to all. Maybe its time to visit the optometrist for me ... I
> haven't been once in my life yet, could be scary :)
>
>
>
>> Not sure about the "Batching inside the weekly digest from thingee",
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On 14/12/15 17:12, Tom Fifield wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ... and back to this thread after a few weeks :)
>>>>
>>>> The conclusions I saw were:
>>>> * Audience for openstack-announce should be "users/non-dev"
>>>> * Service project releases announcements are good
>>>> * Client library release announcements good
>>>> * Security announcements are good
>>>> * Internal library (particularly oslo) release announcements don't fit
>>>>
>>>> Open Questions:
>>>> * Where do Internal library release announcements go? [-dev or new
>>>> -release list or batched inside the weekly newsletter]
>>>> * Do SDK releases fit on -announce?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20/11/15 12:00, Tom Fifield wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to get your thoughts about the OpenStack-Announce list.
>>>>>
>>>>> We describe the list as:
>>>>>
>>>>> """
>>>>> Subscribe to this list to receive important announcements from the
>>>>> OpenStack Release Team and OpenStack Security Team.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a low-traffic, read-only list.
>>>>> """
>>>>>
>>>>> Up until July 2015, it was used for the following:
>>>>> * Community Weekly Newsletter
>>>>> * Stable branch release notifications
>>>>> * Major (i.e. Six-monthly) release notifications
>>>>> * Important security advisories
>>>>>
>>>>> and had on average 5-10 messages per month.
>>>>>
>>>>> After July 2015, the following was added:
>>>>> * Release notifications for clients and libraries (one email per
>>>>> library, includes contributor-focused projects)
>>>>>
>>>>> resulting in an average of 70-80 messages per month.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I no longer consider this volume "low traffic" :)
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition, I have been recently receiving feedback that users have
>>>>> been unsubscribing from or deleting without reading the list's posts.
>>>>>
>>>>> That isn't good news, given this is supposed to be the place where we
>>>>> can make very important announcements and have them read.
>>>>>
>>>>> One simple suggestion might be to batch the week's client/library
>>>>> release notifications into a single email. Another might be to look at
>>>>> the audience for the list, what kind of notifications they want, and
>>>>> chose the announcements differently.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think we should do to ensure the announce list remains
>>>>> useful?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>
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