[openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

Steven Dake (stdake) stdake at cisco.com
Sat Dec 3 21:26:25 UTC 2016


I personally prefer the meeting rooms as they are; however, we do need more of them.  I am often pinged in various other meetings in the common meeting channels and find the group communication that happens in this way preferable to joining each specific project channel.  Joining each specific project channel just to be pinged when desired during a project meeting introduces significant cognitive overhead for me.

I don’t know how others feel.

I’d be in favor of increasing the meeting rooms to enable the worldwide membership of OpenStack to better communicate as groups rather than silos and managing the meeting channels proactively.


-----Original Message-----
From: Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org>
Organization: OpenStack
Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
Date: Friday, December 2, 2016 at 3:35 AM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
Subject: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

    Hi everyone,
    There has been a bit of tension lately around creating IRC meetings.
    I've been busy[1] cleaning up unused slots and defragmenting biweekly
    ones to open up possibilities, but truth is, even with those changes
    approved, there will still be a number of time slots that are full:
    Tuesday 14utc -- only biweekly available
    Tuesday 16utc -- full
    Wednesday 15utc -- only biweekly available
    Wednesday 16utc -- full
    Thursday 14utc -- only biweekly available
    Thursday 17utc -- only biweekly available
    [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:dec2016-cleanup
    Historically, we maintained a limited number of meeting rooms in order
    to encourage teams to spread around and limit conflicts. This worked for
    a time, but those days I feel like team members don't have that much
    flexibility in picking a time that works for everyone. If the miracle
    slot that works for everyone is not available on the calendar, they tend
    to move the meeting elsewhere (private IRC channel, Slack, Hangouts)
    rather than change time to use a less-busy slot.
    So I'm now wondering how much that artificial scarcity policy is hurting
    us more than it helps us. I'm still convinced it's very valuable to have
    a number of "meetings rooms" that you can lurk in and be available for
    pings, without having to join hundreds of channels where meetings might
    happen. But I'm not sure anymore that maintaining an artificial scarcity
    is helpful in limiting conflicts, and I can definitely see that it
    pushes some meetings away from the meeting channels, defeating their
    main purpose.
    - is it time for us to add #openstack-meeting-5 ?
    - should we more proactively add meeting channels in the future ?
    Thierry Carrez (ttx)
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