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Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas (dims)'s message of 2016-04-19 09:25:20 -0400:
> Doug,
> 
> The right thing to add in projects is a dependency on oslo.i18n, which
> will then transitively pull in a good version of Babel. So when we do
> want to throw exceptions or log messages, we should add oslo.i18n and
> not Babel directly.

Ah, OK, thanks for clarifying.

Doug

> 
> Thanks,
> Dims
> 
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com> wrote:
> > Excerpts from Andreas Jaeger's message of 2016-04-19 08:34:53 +0200:
> >> On 2016-04-18 22:34, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Joshua Harlow <harlowja at fastmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Okie, the following reviews are up:
> >> >>
> >> >> https://review.openstack.org/307461 (oslo.concurrency)
> >> >> https://review.openstack.org/307463 (oslo.cache)
> >> >> https://review.openstack.org/307464 (oslo.privsep)
> >> >> https://review.openstack.org/307466 (oslo.middleware)
> >> >> https://review.openstack.org/307467 (oslo.log)
> >> >> https://review.openstack.org/307468 (oslo.db)
> >> >> https://review.openstack.org/307469 (oslo.versionedobjects)
> >> >> https://review.openstack.org/307470 (oslo.service)
> >> >> https://review.openstack.org/307471 (oslo.reports)
> >> >>
> >> >> Do note that the following have a dependency on babel but do not depend on
> >> >> oslo.il8n:
> >> >>
> >> >> tooz
> >> >> oslo.context
> >> >> oslo.serialization
> >> >> debtcollector
> >>
> >> And none of them is setup in infra for translations, so Babel can be
> >> removed,
> >
> > Let's leave them. It was my intent, when I was PTL, that we set up
> > translations for Oslo libraries that throw exceptions or log messages
> > for operators. I think all of these are just incompletely implemented.
> >
> > Doug
> >
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