[openstack-dev] [all][stackalytics] Gaming the Stackalytics stats

Masayuki Igawa masayuki.igawa at gmail.com
Mon Apr 11 02:30:48 UTC 2016


2016-04-11 10:31 GMT+09:00 Sheel Rana Insaan <ranasheel2000 at gmail.com>:
>> So should we add what we don't want
> to see people -1 for?
>
>>[1] http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#peer-review
>
> This seems right way.. but concern is do everyone follow all docs?

Nice point. Yeah, I suppose that not everyone read all docs. But some
reviewers can
know our custom/culture through the docs. And we can indicate the
pointer if reviewers
don't know it.

Best Regards,
-- Masayuki Igawa

>
> But atleast we should document it somewhere.
>
> Regards,
> Sheel Rana
>
> On Apr 11, 2016 6:52 AM, "Masayuki Igawa" <masayuki.igawa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2016-04-11 9:46 GMT+09:00 Matt Riedemann <mriedem at linux.vnet.ibm.com>:
>>
>>
>> On 4/10/2016 6:37 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
>>>
>>> Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-04-09 06:42:54 -0700:
>>>>
>>>> There is also disincentive in +1ing a change that you don't understand
>>>> and is wrong and then a core comes along and -1s it (you get dinged for
>>>> the disagreement). And there is disincentive in -1ing a change for the
>>>> wrong reasons (silly nits or asking questions for understanding). I ask
>>>> a lot of questions in a lot of changes and I don't vote on those because
>>>> it would be inappropriate.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why is disagreement a negative thing? IMO, reviewers who agree too much
>>> are just part of the echo chamber.
>>>
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>>
>> I'm not saying disagreement is a negative thing, I was saying there are
>> times when I've seen people -1 for crazy nits, e.g. there should be a
>> blank
>> line between the bug ref and change-id in the commit message, or for
>> asking
>> questions for understanding (which, btw, I'm fine with -1 for 'add a
>> comment
>> because this is complicated and I didn't get it at first'). And I'm also
>> not
>> crazy about piling on or agreeing with everything either. My point is I
>> think it's appropriate in a lot of cases to just not vote but still
>> comment.
>
> I think we have some/many implicit rules for our review. There's a
> document[1] for review
> but it doesn't mention crazy nits. So should we add what we don't want
> to see people -1 for?
>
> [1] http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#peer-review
>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Matt Riedemann
>>
>>
>>
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