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On 01/04/16 20:03 +0300, Mikhail Fedosin wrote:
>Hi Flavio! Thank you for the clarification.
>
>
>    I do realize that I missed both meetings and that logs from one of them are
>    not
>    complete. I apologize if I've misinterpreted the intentions here. I do
>    think
>    engaiging with DefCore as early in the process as possible is good but I'd
>    also
>    like to clarify the intentions here before this escalates (again) into more
>    confusion about what Glance's future looks like.
>
>
>I want to tell you that the intention of the DefCore meeting was not to confuse
>more on the work, rather it was to get clarity on all the constraints that we
>are stuck with. Currently we intend to keep our focus on interoperability
>issues this cycle - API hardening being our first priority, along with early
>adoption from Murano and Community App Catalog.
>
>And also I want to assure the community that Glare is being developed
>consistent with the API WG principles and in such a way that it could be
>included in DefCore at the appropriate time.

Awesome!

I think reaching out to Defcore is the right thing to do. Glad that was the
intention and that we're on the same page.

Thanks for clarifying, Mike!
Flavio

>Best regards,
>Mikhail Fedosin
>
>On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Flavio Percoco <flavio at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>    Greetings,
>
>    I missed yday's Glance meeting but I went ahead and read the logs. While I
>    was
>    at it, I read a sentence from Erno (under the Glare updates topic) that
>    caught
>    my eye:
>
>            14:06:27 <jokke_> About that. I got couple of pings last night
>    asking wtf is
>            going on. Could we please stop selling Glare as replacement for
>    Glance at
>            least until we have a) stable API and b) some level of track record
>    /testing
>            that it actually is successfully working
>
>    I went ahead and looked for the defcore meeting logs[0] (btw, seems like
>    the bot
>    died during the meeting) to get a better understanding of what Erno meant
>    (I
>    assumed the pings he mentioned came from the meeting and then confirmed
>    it).
>
>    From the small piece of conversation I could read, and based on the current
>    status of development, priorities and support, I noticed a few "issues"
>    that I
>    believe are worth raising:
>
>    1. Glare's API is under discussion and it's a complementary service for
>    Glance.
>    [1] 2. Glare should not be a required API for every cloud, whereas Glance
>    is and
>    it should be kept that way for now. 3. Glare is not a drop-in replacement
>    for
>    Glance and it'll need way more discussions before that can happen.
>
>    I do realize that I missed both meetings and that logs from one of them are
>    not
>    complete. I apologize if I've misinterpreted the intentions here. I do
>    think
>    engaiging with DefCore as early in the process as possible is good but I'd
>    also
>    like to clarify the intentions here before this escalates (again) into more
>    confusion about what Glance's future looks like.
>
>    So, to summarize, I don't think Glare should be added in DefCore in the
>    near
>    future. The Glance team should focus on fixing the current interoperability
>    issues before we'll be able to actually try to build on top of the current
>    API.
>
>    Hope the above makes sense,
>    Flavio
>
>    [0] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/
>    defcore.2016-03-30-16.00.log.txt
>    [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283136
>
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>    Flavio Percoco
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