[openstack-dev] [magnum] Handling password for k8s

王华 wanghua.humble at gmail.com
Mon Sep 21 07:17:16 UTC 2015


I think it is the same case in docker registry v2. User credentials are
needed in docker registry v2 config file. We can use the same user in all
bays, but different trust[1] to it. The user should have no role, it can
only work with trust.

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Keystone/Trusts

Regards
Wanghua

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Steven Dake (stdake) <stdake at cisco.com>
wrote:

> Hongbin,
>
> I believe the domain approach is the preferred approach for the solution
> long term.  It will require more R&D to execute then other options but also
> be completely secure.
>
> Regards
> -steve
>
>
> From: Hongbin Lu <hongbin.lu at huawei.com>
> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <
> openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
> Date: Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 4:26 PM
> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <
> openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Handling password for k8s
>
> Hi Ton,
>
>
>
> If I understand your proposal correctly, it means the inputted password
> will be exposed to users in the same tenant (since the password is passed
> as stack parameter, which is exposed within tenant). If users are not
> admin, they don’t have privilege to create a temp user. As a result, users
> have to expose their own password to create a bay, which is suboptimal.
>
>
>
> A slightly amendment is to have operator to create a user that is
> dedicated for communication between k8s and neutron load balancer service.
> The password of the user can be written into config file, picked up by
> conductor and passed to heat. The drawback is that there is no
> multi-tenancy for openstack load balancer service, since all bays will
> share the same credential.
>
>
>
> Another solution I can think of is to have magnum to create a keystone
> domain [1] for each bay (using admin credential in config file), and assign
> bay’s owner to that domain. As a result, the user will have privilege to
> create a bay user within that domain. It seems Heat supports native
> keystone resource [2], which makes the administration of keystone users
> much easier. The drawback is the implementation is more complicated.
>
>
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Domains
>
> [2]
> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/heat-specs/specs/kilo/keystone-resources.html
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Hongbin
>
>
>
> *From:* Ton Ngo [mailto:ton at us.ibm.com <ton at us.ibm.com>]
> *Sent:* September-20-15 2:08 PM
> *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
> *Subject:* [openstack-dev] [magnum] Handling password for k8s
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
> I am running into a potential issue in implementing the support for load
> balancer in k8s services. After a chat with sdake, I would like to run this
> by the team for feedback/suggestion.
> First let me give a little background for context. In the current k8s
> cluster, all k8s pods and services run within a private subnet (on Flannel)
> and they can access each other but they cannot be accessed from external
> network. The way to publish an endpoint to the external network is by
> specifying this attribute in your service manifest:
> type: LoadBalancer
> Then k8s will talk to OpenStack Neutron to create the load balancer pool,
> members, VIP, monitor. The user would associate the VIP with a floating IP
> and then the endpoint of the service would be accessible from the external
> internet.
> To talk to Neutron, k8s needs the user credential and this is stored in a
> config file on the master node. This includes the username, tenant name,
> password. When k8s starts up, it will load the config file and create an
> authenticated client with Keystone.
> The issue we need to find a good solution for is how to handle the
> password. With the current effort on security to make Magnum
> production-ready, we want to make sure to handle the password properly.
> Ideally, the best solution is to pass the authenticated token to k8s to
> use, but this will require sizeable change upstream in k8s. We have good
> reason to pursue this but it will take time.
> For now, my current implementation is as follows:
>
>    1. In a bay-create, magnum client adds the password to the API call
>    (normally it authenticates and sends the token)
>    2. The conductor picks it up and uses it as an input parameter to the
>    heat templates
>    3. When configuring the master node, the password is saved in the
>    config file for k8s services.
>    4. Magnum does not store the password internally.
>
>
> This is probably not ideal, but it would let us proceed for now. We can
> deprecate it later when we have a better solution. So leaving aside the
> issue of how k8s should be changed, the question is: is this approach
> reasonable for the time, or is there a better approach?
>
> Ton Ngo,
>
>
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