[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Let's change the way we distribute Fuel (was: [Fuel] Remove MOS DEB repo from master node)

Yuriy Taraday yorik.sar at gmail.com
Thu Sep 10 14:08:58 UTC 2015

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 4:43 PM Vladimir Kozhukalov <
vkozhukalov at mirantis.com> wrote:

> > Vladimir's proposal was to use smth similar to MiniCD
> Just to clarify. My proposal is to remove DEB MOS repo from the master
> node by default and thus from the ISO. That is it.
> My proposal does not assume having internet connection during installing
> the master node. Fuel RPM packages together with their dependencies are
> still there on ISO, thus the master node can be installed w/o internet
> connection. Cloud/OpenStack can not be deployed out of the box anyway. It
> is because we don't put Ubuntu upstream on ISO. Anyway a user is forced to
> make Ubuntu upstream mirror available on the master node (cloning it
> locally or via internet connection).
> IMO, Fuel in this case is like a browser or bittorrent client. Packages
> are available on Linux DVDs but it makes little sense to use them w/o
> internet connection.
> Vladimir Kozhukalov
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Yuriy Taraday <yorik.sar at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Note that I'll speak of Fuel as an installer people put on MiniCD. It's a
>> bit bigger, but it deploys clouds, not just separate machines. Packages and
>> OS then translate to everything needed to deploy OpenStack: packages and
>> deploy scripts (puppet manifests, could be packaged as well). We could
>> apply the same logic to distribution of Fuel itself though, but let's not
>> get into it right now.
As I've mentioned later in the initial mail (see above), I'm not talking
about using this approach to deploy Fuel (although it'd be great if we do).
I'm talking about using it to deploy Fuel and then MOS. We can download
some fixed part of the image that contains everything needed to deploy Fuel
and add all necessary repos and manifests to it, for example.

So to repeat the analogy, Fuel is like deb-installer that is present on any
Debian-based MiniCD and MOS (packages+manifests) is like packages that
present on DVD (and downloaded in MiniCD case). You don't want to dig into
deb-installer, but you might want to install different software from
different sources. Just like you don't want to mess with Fuel itself while
you might want to install customized MOS from local repo (or from resulting
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