[openstack-dev] [tc] naming N and O releases nowish

Anita Kuno anteaya at anteaya.info
Wed Oct 7 22:47:48 UTC 2015

On 10/07/2015 06:22 PM, Monty Taylor wrote:
> On 10/07/2015 09:24 AM, Sean Dague wrote:
>> On 10/07/2015 08:57 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>>> Sean Dague wrote:
>>>> We're starting to make plans for the next cycle. Long term plans are
>>>> getting made for details that would happen in one or two cycles.
>>>> As we already have the locations for the N and O summits I think we
>>>> should do the naming polls now and have names we can use for this
>>>> planning instead of letters. It's pretty minor but it doesn't seem like
>>>> there is any real reason to wait and have everyone come up with working
>>>> names that turn out to be confusing later.
>>> That sounds fair. However the release naming process currently
>>> states[1]:
>>> """
>>> The process to chose the name for a release begins once the location of
>>> the design summit of the release to be named is announced and no sooner
>>> than the opening of development of the previous release.
>>> """
>>> ...which if I read it correctly means we could pick N now, but not O. We
>>> might want to change that (again) first.
>>> [1] http://governance.openstack.org/reference/release-naming.html
>> Right, it seems like we should change it so that we can do naming as
>> soon as the location is announced.
>> For projects like Nova that are trying to plan things more than one
>> cycle out, having those names to hang those features on is massively
>> useful (as danpb also stated). Delaying for bureaucratic reasons just
>> seems silly. :)
> So, for what it's worth, I remember discussing this when we discussed
> the current process, and the change you are proposing was one of the
> options put forward when we talked about it.
> The reason for not doing all of them as soon as we know them was to keep
> a sense of ownership by the people who are actually working on the
> thing. Barcelona is a long way away and we'll all likely have rage quit
> by then, leaving the electorate for the name largely disjoint from the
> people working on the release.
> Now, I hear you - and I'm not arguing that position. (In fact, I believe
> my original thought was in line with what you said here) BUT - I mostly
> want to point out that we have had this discussion, the discussion was
> not too long ago, it covered this point, and I sort of feel like if we
> have another discussion on naming process people might kill us with
> pitchforks.

You are assuming that not having this conversation might shield you from
the pitchforks.


> Monty
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