[openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Puppet] Package updates strategy

Richard Raseley richard at raseley.com
Wed May 27 22:54:25 UTC 2015


Zane Bitter wrote:
> Steve is working on a patch to allow package-based updates of overcloud
> nodes[1] using the distro's package manager (yum in the case of RDO, but
> conceivable apt in others). Note we're talking exclusively about minor
> updates, not version-to-version upgrades here.
>
> Dan mentioned at the summit that this approach fails to take into
> account the complex ballet of service restarts required to update
> OpenStack services. (/me shakes fist at OpenStack services.) And
> furthermore, that the Puppet manifests already encode the necessary
> relationships to do this properly. (Thanks Puppeteers!) Indeed we'd be
> doing the Wrong Thing by Puppet if we changed this stuff from under it.
>
> The problem of course is that neither Puppet nor yum/apt has a view of
> the entire system. Yum doesn't know about the relationships between
> services and Puppet doesn't know about all of the _other_ packages that
> they depend on.
>
> One solution proposed was to do a yum update first but specifically
> exclude any packages that Puppet knows about (the --excludes flag
> appears sufficient for this); then follow that up with another Puppet
> run using ensure -> latest.
>
> A problem with that approach is that it still fails to restart services
> which have had libraries updated but have not themselves been updated.
> That's no worse than the pure yum approach though. We might need an
> additional way to just manually trigger a restart of services.
>
> What do folks think of this plan? Anybody got better ideas?
>
> thanks,
> Zane.
>
> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179974
>
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