[openstack-dev] Debian already using Python 3.5: please gate on that

Joe Gordon joe.gordon0 at gmail.com
Fri Jun 19 13:00:11 UTC 2015


On Jun 19, 2015 1:19 PM, "Ihar Hrachyshka" <ihrachys at redhat.com> wrote:
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> On 06/18/2015 09:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> > Excerpts from Brian Curtin's message of 2015-06-18 13:17:52 -0500:
> >> On Thursday, June 18, 2015, Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2015-06-18 15:44:17
> >>> +0200:
> >>>> Hi!
> >>>>
> >>>> tl;dr: skip this message, the subject line is enough! :)
> >>>>
> >>>> As per the subject line, we already have Python 3.5 in Debian
> >>>> (AFAICT, from Debian Experimental, in version beta 2). As a
> >>>> consequence, we're already running (unit) tests using Python
> >>>> 3.5. Some have failures: I could see issues in
> >>>> ceilometerclient, keystoneclient, glanceclient and more (yes,
> >>>> I am planning to report these issues, and we already started
> >>>> doing so). As Python 3.4 is still the default interpreter
> >>>> for /usr/bin/python3, that's currently fine, but it soon wont
> >>>> be.
> >>>>
> >>>> All this to say: if you are currently gating on Python 3,
> >>>> please start slowly adding support for 3.5, as we're planning
> >>>> to switch to that for Debian 9 (aka Stretch). I believe
> >>>> Ubuntu will follow (as the Python core packages are imported
> >>>> from Debian).
> >>>
> >>> 3.5 is still in beta. What's the schedule for an official
> >>> release from the python-dev team?
> >>
> >>
> >> 3.4 Final is planed for September 13
> >> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0478/
> >
> > Based on that, I am confident in sticking with our plan of gating
> > using 3.4 for now and keeping an eye on the 3.5 packages being
> > built by Debian and Canonical.
> >
>
> +1. Putting burden on projects to adopt to beta releases of python is
> unreasonable.

Agreed. I also found the tone of the original email misleading.

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> Ihar
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