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We'll have a Google Hangout for the Cinder mid-cycle for virtual attendees and will post the links on IRC and the etherpad:
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-liberty-midcycle-meetup

We'll make sure we ping mreidem and the Nova channel when we're discussing Cinder <-> Nova topics.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Riedemann [mailto:mriedem at linux.vnet.ibm.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 8:18 AM
To: openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][cinder] Would anyone from Nova Core be able to join the Cinder mid-cycle meetup?



On 7/30/2015 12:31 AM, Anita Kuno wrote:
> On 07/29/2015 10:59 PM, John Garbutt wrote:
>> On 24 July 2015 at 22:49, Jay S. Bryant <jsbryant at electronicjungle.net> wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I had the opportunity to chat with John Garbutt when he was here in 
>>> Rochester for the Nova mid-cycle meet-up.  We discussed the fact 
>>> that there was much to be gained by improving the communication 
>>> between the Cinder and Nova teams.
>>
>> We do have names written down for CrossProjectLiaisons for other projects.
>> That is helping a little, but I am sure we can refine the idea so its 
>> more effective:
>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Inter-project_Li
>> aisons
>>
>> The basic ideas would be to get folks who are in the Nova meeting 
>> regularly to jump into the Cinder meeting when required, and someone 
>> else to do the reverse.
>
> What I am finding is that some folks are reluctant to come forward as 
> Liasons initially, despite their possible interest. Some reasons for 
> hesitation might include uncertainty of what responsibilities are 
> understood with the role, uncertainty if there actually is time in the 
> individual's schedule to attend meetings and be available for 
> questions, clarification and follow up, that sort of thing.
>
> I am finding good success by encouraging someone who might consider 
> trying on a cross project hat to do something along those lines: 
> attend a meeting, follow up on an email, engage in a conversation with 
> someone in another project on a specific issue and see how it feels. 
> If it doesn't feel like a good fit, fair enough, thanks for trying it 
> out. If you can help with one thing (example: cells with nova and 
> neutron) great, you don't have to take on everything with the two 
> projects, just focus on one issue and that is most welcome, thank you. 
> (Thanks to mlavelle for volunteering with the cells cross project work 
> here.)
>
> If you have done a few things, shown up for meetings for two projects, 
> followed a particular spec, helped both projects become better 
> informed about how the issue affects those projects, wonderful. Then 
> if you feel like added your name to the wikipage, great, that helps 
> others. But please don't feel that signing up has to be the first 
> step, for some they experience the work for a while before they agree 
> to it publicly, what ever works for you.
>
> Thanks Jay, John, and Paul, glad to see this conversation progress, 
> Anita.
>
>>
>> For specific patches that really important to cinder, it would be 
>> good to advertise them in the usual place for nova:
>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking
>>
>>> With that idea in mind, it was suggested that the Cinder team open 
>>> an invitation to Nova members to attend our mid-cycle meet-up.  The 
>>> mid-cycle meet-up, of course, is not a secret.  A member of the Nova 
>>> team has always been welcome to join, just hoping that an explicit 
>>> invitation here may spark some interest.  :-)  Note:  John 
>>> considered attending but is unable to do so.
>>
>> So looks like Paul might be there.
>>
>> I can try and join a hangout, if there is something urgent.
>> That approach has big limitations, but happy to try (ideally AM, 
>> given I am in the UK).
>>
>>> The mid-cycle meet-up for Cinder is 8/4 through 8/7 at the HP site 
>>> in Fort Collins, CO .  Friday is an optional code sprint day for 
>>> those who are able to stay that long.  Details about the meet-up can 
>>> be seen on our mid-cycle meetup planning etherpad [1].
>>>
>>> If you are able to join us and help us work through the various 
>>> challenges we are having between Cinder and Nova it would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
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If we want a name for nova liaison to cinder, then I can put my name in, I've spent enough time in the cinder channel lately and have been reviewing more volume-related code in nova where I'm not *completely* lost, just *kind of* lost.

I would have been interested in attending the cinder meetup to represent nova except for that the email came out less than a week ago and the meetup is next week, which leaves little time to prepare for that kind of thing when you have family stuff to sort out for travel.

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Thanks,

Matt Riedemann


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