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On 07/29/2015 10:59 PM, John Garbutt wrote:
> On 24 July 2015 at 22:49, Jay S. Bryant <jsbryant at electronicjungle.net> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> I had the opportunity to chat with John Garbutt when he was here in
>> Rochester for the Nova mid-cycle meet-up.  We discussed the fact that there
>> was much to be gained by improving the communication between the Cinder and
>> Nova teams.
> 
> We do have names written down for CrossProjectLiaisons for other projects.
> That is helping a little, but I am sure we can refine the idea so its
> more effective:
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Inter-project_Liaisons
> 
> The basic ideas would be to get folks who are in the Nova meeting
> regularly to jump into the Cinder meeting when required, and someone
> else to do the reverse.

What I am finding is that some folks are reluctant to come forward as
Liasons initially, despite their possible interest. Some reasons for
hesitation might include uncertainty of what responsibilities are
understood with the role, uncertainty if there actually is time in the
individual's schedule to attend meetings and be available for questions,
clarification and follow up, that sort of thing.

I am finding good success by encouraging someone who might consider
trying on a cross project hat to do something along those lines: attend
a meeting, follow up on an email, engage in a conversation with someone
in another project on a specific issue and see how it feels. If it
doesn't feel like a good fit, fair enough, thanks for trying it out. If
you can help with one thing (example: cells with nova and neutron)
great, you don't have to take on everything with the two projects, just
focus on one issue and that is most welcome, thank you. (Thanks to
mlavelle for volunteering with the cells cross project work here.)

If you have done a few things, shown up for meetings for two projects,
followed a particular spec, helped both projects become better informed
about how the issue affects those projects, wonderful. Then if you feel
like added your name to the wikipage, great, that helps others. But
please don't feel that signing up has to be the first step, for some
they experience the work for a while before they agree to it publicly,
what ever works for you.

Thanks Jay, John, and Paul, glad to see this conversation progress,
Anita.

> 
> For specific patches that really important to cinder, it would be good
> to advertise them in the usual place for nova:
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking
> 
>> With that idea in mind, it was suggested that the Cinder team open an
>> invitation to Nova members to attend our mid-cycle meet-up.  The mid-cycle
>> meet-up, of course, is not a secret.  A member of the Nova team has always
>> been welcome to join, just hoping that an explicit invitation here may spark
>> some interest.  :-)  Note:  John considered attending but is unable to do
>> so.
> 
> So looks like Paul might be there.
> 
> I can try and join a hangout, if there is something urgent.
> That approach has big limitations, but happy to try (ideally AM, given
> I am in the UK).
> 
>> The mid-cycle meet-up for Cinder is 8/4 through 8/7 at the HP site in Fort
>> Collins, CO .  Friday is an optional code sprint day for those who are able
>> to stay that long.  Details about the meet-up can be seen on our mid-cycle
>> meetup planning etherpad [1].
>>
>> If you are able to join us and help us work through the various challenges
>> we are having between Cinder and Nova it would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> +1
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 
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